The 2020 NEPFF Pats-Only Mock Draft Contest

-by DNOMN8R314

I wasn’t going to run the contest this year, having stepped back from following football closely. But with everyone quarantined, it seems like a good time to reconnect a bit with the site.

So, here’s:

THE 2020 NEPFF PATS-I can stop, you’ve read this in the headline.

I will be adding a new rule, but before that, here are the old

RULES:

Please send me the names of the 12 players you most strongly predict Bill Belichick will pick in this year’s draft. Don’t send me more than 12, as I will not count anyone past that cutoff. (I will contact you in response and ask if there’s a specific player or players you want removed. If not, I’ll remove everyone after the first 12.) If you send me fewer than 12, I’ll count all those players (down from 1st, not up from 12th), but you’ll have fewer chances to get a player right. Additionally, you may not repeat players within the list, or within each individual shorter bonus point list; however, you may have a player on multiple lists.

Send me the list of players in order of likelihood you think the Patriots will draft them, and note the number of the round you think each player will be drafted in. (I have to specify “the number of the round” instead of simply “which round” as the other part of the MAC Loophole.) If you think a player will be signed by the Patriots as a UDFA immediately after the draft, you may include him on your list.

(I should note that this is about the players you think the team will draft; your guesses do not need to match the draft slots they currently have. If you think the Patriots will trade into the fifth round and take a certain player there, mark him as a 5th-round choice and put him on your list.)

SCORING:

Remember, these lists are to be in order of likelihood.

If the 1st player on your list is drafted by the Patriots, you receive 15 points.
2nd: 12
3rd: 10
4th: 9
5th: 8
6th: 7
7th: 6
8th: 5
9th: 4
10th: 3
11th: 2
12th: 1
If you correctly guess the round of any Patriots draft pick, you receive an extra 3 points.

If a player you predicted the Patriots would draft is signed by New England as a UDFA, or a player you think will be a Pats UDFA becomes a NE draft pick, you receive half the points for that slot, rounded up to the nearest whole point. For instance, if someone last year had Jakobi Meyers in their 8th slot as a 6th-round selection, they would have received 3 points for him.

Additionally, you will receive extra points if you guess multiple picks correctly.
For two correct guesses, you will get an extra 1 point.
For three, 3 points.
For four, 6 points.
For five, 10 points.
For six or more, 15 points.

BONUS POINTS:

First, you may submit the names of the three players you think the Patriots are most likely to draft in the first round. As mentioned above, these players may be, but do not have to be, on your list of 12. Each player will be worth an additional 5 points – but ONLY if they are drafted in the first round, or (if the Patriots make no first-round choices) are New England’s first pick. If one of your choices gets drafted by the Patriots later, you receive 2 points.

Additionally, you may also send a list of the three quarterbacks you think the Patriots are most likely to draft. (Again, these players may or may not be on your main list of 12.) Each of these players is worth an extra 3 points whether drafted or signed as a UDFA. You do not need to include expected rounds for this bonus list.

NEW FOR 2020:

If you select a player correctly whom no one else picked, you get a bonus equal to one-third of the points for that slot, rounded up to the nearest whole point. This applies only to the main list of 12.

DEADLINE:

I will be accepting entries until the start of the first round of the draft, which is Thursday, April 23 at 8 PM Eastern time. Send your lists to contests@patsfootbalfans.com and include your lists in the body of the email.

Who will the Patriots add to the roster? And will Hugo continue his dominance?

We’ll find out soon enough.

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Nate
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Bunch of cry babies on here, ridiculous someone stated below Jules is really sad and not happy because TB left and Gronk is joining him.
The man is getting paid millions, I doubt his account got cleaned up when TB left , plus he unfollowing TB is his choice, maybe he wants it to be clear how he feels and where his loyalty lie.

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I think that was bad reporting, he’s still following Brady.. not that sh*t like that is worth reporting.

Nate
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Forget the following my point stands.

Mattdog #GoodLockerRoomGuy
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I know I lot of fans aren’t happy with the new uniforms. Maybe they should’ve hired this 6 year old Italian kid to design them:
https://www.espn.com/soccer/italian-serie-b/story/4087988/italian-side-pescara-calcio-to-wear-six-year-olds-design-next-season

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PatriotPrideBoy
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I just remembered Gronk had like 18 touchdowns in his second year in the league. Man…

MasterAndCommander
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An OrangeDog sighting?????!!!!! ———–>>>>>>

markpatriots
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What happens when you have a lounge singer front a pop punk band?
Lets see.
Smoking Popes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIZcQ3k-Ano

Kerthwap
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Check out The Buttertones, similar voice, over 50s style surf music. Fun stuff.

memokerobi
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Short thread on Laviska Shenault

https://twitter.com/pff_mike/status/1252745783201468421?s=21

Lots of guys have dropped him way down their draft boards due to injuries/athletic testing but any team getting him will be getting an extremely skilled player

bring
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I’ll take him and the guy throwing to him

Deadsmack #GottaBelieve
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Deadsmack #GottaBelieve

Steven Montez?

bring
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Huge arm

Deadsmack #GottaBelieve
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Deadsmack #GottaBelieve

as late rounds pick, he could be interesting

bring
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bring

Yeah that’s why I like him – you can get him late

Nate
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Go away with your Brady love talk Slayer.
TB wasn’t BB freaking security blanket.
That statement is wrong on so many levels, you are delusional but we will see how much the Pat’s sucks without TB and for how long since he played D, Special teams and caught his own passes and blocked for himself.

bring
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Thank you Charles Davis – he just did a mock draft with the Saints taking Jordan Love at 24. So if you want the sliding QB – call the Pats!

Deadsmack #GottaBelieve
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Forget Hydroxicloroquine

More deaths, no benefit from malaria drug in VA virus study
https://apnews.com/a5077c7227b8eb8b0dc23423c0bbe2b2

Deadsmack #GottaBelieve
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In the study of 368 patients, 97 patients who took hydroxychloroquine had a 27.8% death rate. The 158 patients who did not take the drug had an 11.4% death rate.

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Shocked! Shocked I tell you! Laetrile is the solution.

Deadsmack #GottaBelieve
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I’m sure it could help more or at least doesn’t increase the odds to die.

NoWorryBones
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I was joking. Laetrile is the biggest quackery in history.

NoWorryBones
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Apricot pits if I remember correctly.

Deadsmack #GottaBelieve
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That’s the problem we are facing now, everyone wants an efficient treatment and/or a vaccine as fast as possible, but we have to let science follow its course.
I’m sure all the scientists, doctors, pharmaceutical companies want discover the solution for all this, but we need to have conclusive data to have a clue how to save as many people as possible. This is not yet the time for a scientific Hail Mary.

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And people have to accept the possibility that 5 years could pass by and there is still no vaccine and hundreds of thousands maybe millions die from it.

Deadsmack #GottaBelieve
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True, but we don’t need people taking hydroxicloroquine like it’s the solution and they actually could be increasing the death toll.

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It isn’t going to take five years. There are already some in clinical trials.

Deadsmack #GottaBelieve
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and that were same type of conclusions by studies in France and Sweden, countries that already have suspended its use on Covid-19 patients

MasterAndCommander
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As far as I’m concerned, the victim’s family should be charging and suing any physician and politician who advocated for this as a treatment. They preyed on the desperation of people knowing and/or caring nothing about the consequences. Make them accessories to the death of the patients who died.

MasterAndCommander
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Welp, dinner time. See ya later all.

MasterAndCommander
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Crap….another windy night to beat on the house. Gonna be a noisy night for sleeping.

NoWorryBones
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Storms, or just wind?

MasterAndCommander
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Storms earlier, now just wind. WE’ve had off and on nasty winds since late Feb.

NoWorryBones
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Arrrr…batten down the hatches.

MasterAndCommander
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LOL

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Thar she blows, three sails of the starboard bow, and blows her nose with great intensity……..

MasterAndCommander
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Great looking pup Cali.

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Thanks!! Did you get a new cat yet?

MasterAndCommander
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No, not yet. The only time I get to see a family cat is when we Zoom call our daughter.

Calipatsfan3473
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You should get one- or a dog.

NoWorryBones
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Or a turtle.

Calipatsfan3473
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Or a goldfish.

Mattdog #GoodLockerRoomGuy
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Or a lizard filled with cocaine or a baby tiger. They are all the rage on netflix.

MasterAndCommander
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Well, normally the length of time we’re away for work wouldn’t be fair to a dog. I like dogs but I prefer a cat for ease of care.

I have to say I’m impressed by the number of animal shelters getting cleared out during the stay at home time. Hope they find a permanent home afetr this all clears out.

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Hope the out-of-work owners can afford food and vet care, though.

MasterAndCommander
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Stiil have to convince the wife.

NoWorryBones
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Oof. Sorry, MAC, guess I missed the last passing.

MasterAndCommander
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yeah, finally had to put our 2nd cat down back last fall. He was 17 and his kidneys finally gave out. Still miss him a lot…and his sister.

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🙁

MasterAndCommander
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It is, but they were both good cats (Prozac years aside) and fun to have around. Glad they were part of our family and lives.

MasterAndCommander
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DNOM still here?

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No.

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Tom Brady is happy.

MasterAndCommander
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This approval is conditional. unless its Greenie.

Calipatsfan3473
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Who is it?

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All mods can see is an IP address.

MasterAndCommander
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Hey Bones, do you still have access to the Manshet Panel?

Calipatsfan3473
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He’s still listed as a “guest”- what do you think?

MasterAndCommander
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point taken

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Try to keep up.

MasterAndCommander
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Insert “front lawn” comment here

NoWorryBones
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I don’t even have an account that I know of, don’t remember my email address that I used back then. I deleted whatever outside account that I used for the photo.

bring
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Belichick is happy

MrLucky
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I’m buying Madden this year and immediately trading Brady and Gronk back to the Pats.

MasterAndCommander
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#delusions 🙂

Calipatsfan3473
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So are the Pats in full rebuild mode now- not that Gronk would have ever played in NE again?

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they’re definitely not in ‘win now’ mode..

Calipatsfan3473
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Defense may have to carry them.

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All that’s happened from this morning to now is that they moved a draft pick around 100 spots higher.

Calipatsfan3473
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Still think there’s more moves coming.

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Yes. Belichick, McDaniels, and Adams retire, then Kraft hands the team over to Jonathan.

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I think that that’s been happening already.

NoWorryBones
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All this year? Go big or go home.

Calipatsfan3473
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Nope- he’s going to do it gradually.

MasterAndCommander
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McD doesn’t retire. May actually take over. Though I think Flores would be the better HC. SHould have figured a way to keep him, but he saw the end of an era was close and moved on.

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They’ve been there the moment Brady was gone, if not earlier.

Nate
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Fuck Brady

Opinion Slayer
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According to Drew R. Gronk approached him a month ago about going to Tampa and according to Nink Brady reached out to Gronk first.

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so.. gronk passed his physical, but did he pass the pee test?

Pauly
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Tide pods don’t show up in a pee test, silly

Calipatsfan3473
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They are used for the clean up after?

Pauly
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Love the new pic, Cali

Calipatsfan3473
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Me too- thanks!!

Opinion Slayer
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This draft is going to be so interesting to watch. BB really will need to hit this draft out of the park.

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Definitely the most important of his career.

Opinion Slayer
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I agree. No more safety nets left, your best player is a corner and the rest are just middle of the road talents. What he does this year will impact years to come.

rking88
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how you gonna disrespect matt slater like that…

our best player is a special teamer and team reverend

Opinion Slayer
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Just stating the facts

bring
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This isn’t the NBA

IMO, the coach is more important than the players in the NFL.

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Andrew Callahan
@_AndrewCallahan
The #Patriots received the later of the Bucs’ two fourth-rounders at No. 139.

Calipatsfan3473
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As expected.

Pauly
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I didn’t actually expect a trade but I’m underwhelmed by not even getting a high 4th for him or getting Howard back somehow in the deal. If Gronk used a threat of coming back just to cause cap problems to force the trade and screw the Pats… Gronk isn’t close to what he used to be, though, and that deal reflects it. Should be a good blocker still though and a great red zone threat, if he can stay on the field. Plus someone Brady trusts if Brady and the WRs don’t mesh.

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Still better than nothing!

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Of course they did… Damn Belichick, why couldn’t you have gotten their next 5 first rounders?!

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Final wide receivers article finished and delivered. I hope Dnom can get to it before the draft.

2500+ word article on best Patriots fits on each day of the draft with a link to a 9000 word google doc including my notes on each player I watched. Hope you guys enjoy

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Which round do you think BB picks a WR?

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I definitely think at least one With the 3rds or the 4ths

rking88
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bravo memo… that’s a lot of effort/time that goes into doing something like that.

looking forward to reading it

Opinion Slayer
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This is good practice for him now that he’s becoming a professional in the field.

MasterAndCommander
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Thanks memo. I thought Hugo was going to take over posting articles? No?

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I think Dnom’s still on it since he posted my last two. I’m not sure

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I’m telling you, especially with no preseason, the Buccaneers aren’t winning any Super Bowl this year, and then Brady will be 44 and Gronk might be retired again.

This changes nothing.

MasterAndCommander
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The Bucs WR group will help cover TB’s age quite a bit, but I wonder if Gronk’s banged up body will be back up to his standards.

DinoScapelli
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Gronk will be a mediocre player. Brady will not be on the same page with those WRs until late season.

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He’ll most likely be hurt by mid-season.

Opinion Slayer
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Gronk at 80% is better than 90% of TE’s in the league specially in the blocking game and a year off.

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They will need to get very lucky healthwise and get off to a fast start otherwise things with the younger WRs could go south. Godwin said half of Winston’s INT’s last year were due to them running bad routes. That isn’t going to work out well with Brady.

Opinion Slayer
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Tom Brady is 42 on his drivers license but his body is much closer to a 36-37 year old. And you don’t fall off throwing 61mph balls in 9 months.

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Brady will be 43 before the season starts.

Opinion Slayer
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Just a number, like I said his body is much younger and stronger than the date on his drivers license.

DinoScapelli
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He struggled with two injuries all last year, and it showed. Every year will add another problem area on that well-maintained carcass.

Opinion Slayer
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Brady has struggled with injuries every year of his career, give me a break.

DinoScapelli
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By your way of thinking, he could play forever.

MrScratch
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Yeah, that’s generally about right.

Problem is that’s about the age regular QB begin breaking down.

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My feeling too.

Opinion Slayer
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Dude, if gyms and restaurants are opening up, you have to be crazy to think that he won’t be in Montana next month with all these guys.

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I mean, it’s more likely than not that they don’t win it only because it is so hard and rare to win. Look at the great seasons that SF and Baltimore and Tennessee had and they still didn’t win it.

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And I don’t think TB will have a great season. They could be 3rd in the NFC South.

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Lmao! If we are going to play the “could” game then they could also be 1st.

DinoScapelli
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I don’t think they are as good as New Orleans.

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One of the games they lost to the saints Winston threw 4 INT’s. Just saying but you’re not the first one to doubt the goat.

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The GOAT has never been in such an alien situation before. We shall see how he handles it all.

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Good thing muscle memory is real, Gronk will be putting on 20lbs of muscle in the next 10-12 weeks.

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So with the stockpiling of 2020 draft picks is BB:
1) expecting the 2020 CFB season to be a bust and thus make the 2021 draft more unpredictable? (Better to stash known players now in 2020.)
or:
2) stockpiling picks to work out a trade to get someone like Carr at QB? (Assuming cap soace can be cleared.)

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Or trade into 2021?

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Risky

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BB is currently scouting some obscure DB that’s projected to go in the 7th round and stockpiling picks to move up to get him.

DinoScapelli
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He didn’t gain a pick with the Gronk trade. Moved up from 7th to 4th.

MasterAndCommander
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I mean overall. I expect more trades to bring in more picks.

DinoScapelli
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Trades down in the draft? Or players?

MasterAndCommander
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Possibly both. Need to clear cap space (trade players).

DinoScapelli
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Thuney will not be easy to trade, and who else would help the cap situation? …except Gilmore, whom I don’t want to trade.

MasterAndCommander
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Don’t recall the names but an article listed about 5 players that would help with the cap @$10 mill with very little dead money.

DinoScapelli
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Yes, but then you have to sign FAs to replace a lot of them. One was Sanu, for most of the money, so that is possible, but then who plays WR?

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He usually stockpiles pick. But, yes, better to stash players now because the idea that there will be a 2020 CFB season is pretty hard to imagine. 2021 draft is a nightmare in the making.

Interestingly, there seems to be a lot of declarations for the NBA draft ahead of possibly not having a place to play next year. Seeing now starting with Jalen Green and Isiah Todd, all the top recruits may go D-League.

MasterAndCommander
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Wasn’t aware of the NBA situation but it does add a twist.

MasterAndCommander
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well, if we have a 2020 season, it sure will be different.

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Gronk was retired

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It’s time to move on.

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You can’t move on. You’re stuck with those ugly uniforms.

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I’ll listen to them on the radio.

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If you don’t understand the importance of Josh McDaniels as part of Pats success, just remember plays like this and how important they were in the path for SB wins. The success was not just the work of Brady or BB.
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without this play, most likely Ravens would have beaten the Pats and that would mean no Super Bowl XLIX title

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That was a great play but there’s a reason he never used that in Denver or with the Rams.

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Tebow would’ve thrown the first pass and hit some kid 5 rows up in the stands

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5 rows…….You’re being generous don’t yah think 🙂

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You’re confusing Mallett with Tebow. Mallett would bean a fan. Tebow would create a divot.

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I was there. One of my favorite plays and favorite games.

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I’m not trying to diminish Brady importance, but sometimes people think the SB wins were just work of Brady and BB and that is far from the truth

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Brady went to 3 SB’s without Josh and he could go to another one again. The QB is far more important than the OC. If you don’t believe me look at their paychecks.

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Josh is still only 44 years old (almost the same age as Brady), he will have a lot of time to prove his value as HC

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BB and EA are the program. McD is along for the ride

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Josh brought even more value to the team. Look what BB said about the importance of Josh to switch the system to an heavy run offense in the last SB win.

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Who do you replace Thuney with if you trade him. You already lost Scar. Can you afford to lose your best Olineman as well with green QB’s?

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If you have no QB, who do you need to protect? 🙂

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Logic spoken.

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Draft a good college left tackle whose arms are too short to play the spot in the NFL like they have been doing ie Mankins and Thuney

He is replaceable and BB has been very very very good at finding those guys

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I know what happened to this line when Scar retired and with a rookie Olineman I don’t like the chances of improvement.

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DeGuglielmo was OL coach when the Pats won the 2014 super bowl

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They did win a SB without Scar but yes he is a good coach.

I am just saying that BB and the Patriots have been great when finding college LT’s and making them guards.

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No one will give a high pick for a franchised guard

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I like Thuney well enough, but not for $14,78M.

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there are guards in the draft, and maybe Froholdt isn’t half bad.. who knows.

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You sound like TradeEmAll MAC, Dino.

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How the hell did this end up here?

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Talent

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It’s magic.

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I deleted mine just as you replied!

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Steve Palazzolo @PFF_Steve
Counterpoint: Bill Belichick just traded a wrestler for a fourth rounder

FACT. LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL

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ah man, they traded Stephen Neal?

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well said.

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“Well done is better than well said.” -Some old QB

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“Medium rare is better than well done.”
– Betty

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It wasn’t Brady that made gronk want Tampa, it was Florida declaring the WWE an “essential business”.

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Now to trade Thuney’s overpaid ass out of here for a 3rd!

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The rebuild continues..

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We will own the 3rd and 4th rounds but I’m wondering…who were the best 3rd and 4th round picks in the BB era? Can’t think of too many.

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He has had many.

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Trey Flowers was a 4th right? Probably the best off the top of my head.

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Gostkowski, too. Look them up: Many starters.

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Well, a fourth rounder for a kicker better be a good player. They’re usually not drafted that high. My point is, there are probably a lot more misses than hits. Hard to get excited.

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winovich is a 3rd rounder… he looked promising as a rookie

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Jarvis Green, Asante Samuel, Ellis Hobbs, Nick Kaczur, James Sanders, Aaron Hernandez, Stevan Ridley, Logan Ryan, Duron Harmon, Brian Stork, James White, Cam Fleming, Trey Flowers, Shaq Mason, Joe Thuney, Jacoby Brissett, Derek Rivers, Deatrich Wise, Chase Winovich, Damien Harris, Yodney Cajuste, Hjalte Froholdt, and future Hall of Fame QB Jarrett Stidham.

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Thuney himself was a 3rd and he’s become an All pro. Which is why, I’d guess, it makes sense to trade him.

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So will the Gronk trade affect the Pats cap space?

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Did he ever file his retirement papers?

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I don’t think so.

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CapSpace Miguel says no

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nope

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Yes.

They now have a 4th rounder slot to consider over a 7th

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nope… but had he unretired for us we’d take a 10 mil cap hit, so… it could’ve only hurt us, not helped the cap

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No

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Slayer, Josh McDaniels was part of every SB winning team in NE if you don’t know.

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6 rings for Josh, just saying

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I’ll repeat it again since you obviously didn’t get it. How did McD do in Denver and Rams without Brady? Brady went to 3 SB’s with different OC’s.

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Josh was already the QB coach in 2004

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Try answering the question for once.

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Tell me what did Bruce Arians as HC too

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I will when you answer the question.

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How’s Robert Kraft feeling right now?

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He’s busy applying for a small business loan.

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…and he’ll get it.

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rich as a billionaire

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Can’t beat that, you win!

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Not good considering he interfered with BB getting out ahead of both of these departures

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How did RK interfere with the previous Gronk trade?

bring
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He blocked it – the deal was done with Lions for a first rounder, but Kraft blocked it when Gronk and Brady threatened to retire

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Thanks, I never heard this story before.

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Unless he found a way to get curbside Asian massages, probably pretty bored….

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Probably tense. Esp since Orchids of Asian closed down.

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What do you think the Pats plane was reeaaallly doing in China?

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The new Chargers uniforms look very good.

The Patriots have gone from one of the best-looking unis in the NFL to perhaps the worst. That makes me more sad than Gronk playing in Tampa Brady.

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Chargers uni look amazing white and yellow and blue and white are lit. And those helmets!!

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the leg thunder-bolt is a great touch

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Some of the ancient Charger uniforms had the bolt on the thighs.

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Chargers old powder blues were always a great uni, the best imo……they smartened up and went back to it with a modern tweak

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All kidding aside.
Can the Patriots trade Hulk Hogan?

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Ryan Hannable

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Julian Edelman no longer follows Tom Brady on Instagram https://weei.radio.com/blogs/ryan-hannable/julian-edelman-unfollows-tom-brady-on-instagram

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he is probably listening to the saddest breakup songs on Spotify

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The 4th round pick BB got will be looked at for years to come. Will BB hit or miss with it?

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remember that 4th round pick the pats got when they traded a retired gronk who they weren’t expecting to get anything for… and that guy they drafted with that pick ended up being just another nobody… god belichick SUCKS

-nobody… ever

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We’ll draft Rodrigo Blankenship with the pick.

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It shouldn’t be – Gronk already quit on us

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Bill should definitely push to trade Jules to Tompa Bay. Imagine the unhappy Bucs receivers when Tommy targets his old buddies 60% of the time!

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Godwin is a far better WR than Jules, no need there and NE needs Jules more than ever now.

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NE needs another pick more than it needs Jules.

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20 draft picks or GTFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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It’s the quality of the picks that count not quantity.

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Not this year.

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This year they aren’t going to make the playoffs anyway. Time to rebuild.

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Don’t say that out loud Dino, there are a lot of people here that actually think they are.

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Not a lot, I’ll wager. JL Stokes and dp73, definitely!

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No. I don’t think the Patriots are in a good position to make the playoffs.

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Note; I was one of the few here that didn’t predict the Patriots to make the Super Bowl.

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A 5th round?

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We don’t need Jules to #TankForTrevor 🙂

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It’s coming.

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I think Jules will really feel sad and lonely this year in NE, abandoned by his best buddies. Left on the side of the road like an unwanted dog 🙁
Poor little thing. Hope he doesn’t give up…

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I’ve been saying that he might retire before the season.

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I think he’s still got guys like DMC, Slater, James White, who he’s still gonna be close with… certainly not BFF’s like he is with Brady… but who knows

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Any news today?

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No

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No

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Still a lot people died

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Yes- a photo of Betty 🙂

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She’s adorable!

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Yes- and she enjoyed her steak last night!

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Yes, Cali posted a dog pic.

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Boney hasn’t had any good days yet.

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Damn straight!

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Has the cast been removed?

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Yeah, this morning. Looked and felt great. Now, not so much. Got that little itch on the ball of the foot again. Once I go to full or even half weight bearing, all bets are off.

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Just take it easy for a few days- and ice it.

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The ligament will be fine. The sesamoid bone’s the problem. Think they’ll have to remove it.

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Sorry to hear that.

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We are maneuvering to secure every pick in the 7th round

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I love it when a plan comes together!

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“Nothing”
Diary of French King Louis XVI, on July 14, 1789.

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Rob Gronkowski in 2020

Games -16
Receptions – 90
TD’s -23
Yards-2,025

🙂 🙂 🙂

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If it comes true it means he totally effed us last year

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All their TE’s together won’t even be close to that outcome

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Make that seven games, but the same stats.

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He did.

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Brady said that one of the things he’s looking forward to doing in Tampa is collaborating with Bruce with the offense. The idea that Brady won’t be bringing in his favorite 30-40 plays and working with Arian is asinine. Bruce is an offensive guru who will be working to the strengths of his QB and not making things harder. Expect a lot of two TE sets, play-action and screen game to be used a lot more in Tampa. Now the NE offense will be a curious one and should be interesting to see how they play.

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Josh McDaniels >>>>> Bruce Arians

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LOL, How did McD do without Brady in Denver and Rams? At least Bruce won a SB as an OC without Brady. Josh has won nothing.

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Yeah, I wouldn’t be so sure, Smacky.

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Me whenever Pats news breaks in 2020:
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That’s me every day in 2020 so far.

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Except that I am not supposed to move that much outside my locked-down flat 🙂

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trey wingo @wingoz
The 49ers are fielding calls on both of their 1st round picks according to @AdamSchefter. Would be rare for a team to make 2 picks in the 1st round after playing in the Super Bowl.
It’s happened 5 times in the last 40 years, and all of those instances involved the Pats & Raiders

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Bet they’re trying to use the pick to dump one of their big contracts

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Does that happen in the NFL? Seems like an NBA move.

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TALK ABOUT PRESSURE.
ANYTHING LESS THAN A SB WILL BE CONSIDERED A FAILURE BY TAMPA FANS.

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Tampa fans are just glad to not be the armpit of the league and be in the news and finally get some nationally televised games.

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OK TAMPA

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Tampa slayer, go copyright it.

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Now if BB can only find a way to trade Russ Francis this day would be perfect

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Francis won a Super Bowl. Brady/Gronk won’t. 🙂

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Adam Schefter

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2018 Rob Gronkowski trade:
Lions receive Gronkowski and a second-round pick (No. 43.)
Patriots receive a first-round pick (No. 20) and a second-round pic (No. 51)

2020 Gronkowski trade:
Buccaneers receive Gronkowski and a seventh-round pick.
Patriots receive a fourth-round pick.

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Well apples to oranges, no tomatoes, comparison given Gronk statistically had his worst season in 2018 and then retired and did not play football for a year.

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THEY WON A SB.

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It would’ve been a good trade but yeah, probably cost them the SB.

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eesh.