Preseason Y Factors 2019: Patriots vs. Panthers

-by DNOMN8R314

[NOTE: Don’t forget to work on your roster projections through next week!]

After two long weeks away from Foxboro, the Patriots will play their first home game of 2019.

I know, still the preseason. It counts.

In this third game of August, we’ll finally see New England’s projected starters take the field, perhaps getting a clue as to which players will see the field most during the regular season and what tricks Bill Belichick and Josh McDaniels (and Jerod Mayo?) pull out of the playbook… although you can likely scratch that last one, as we know how much of a secret-keeper Belichick is.

Still, we’ll have plenty to watch and learn Thursday night. Here are a few possibilities.

The more, Demaryius: Longtime Bronco and short-time Texan Demaryius Thomas became a Patriot this offseason, but spent most of the summer on PUP before his Tuesday activation. With only two days on the field before Thursday’s preseason game, we can only guess as to how much, if at all, Thomas will play. If he does join the offense in uniform, how will he be used? Will he play with Tom Brady, or will he get his footing with the backups? Right now, we can just guess, but his usage could give us a better idea of his chances of sticking on the roster beyond end-of-August cuts.

Came in like a Rex-ing ball: Rex Burkhead, while possessing valued four-down versatility, also finds his roster status uncertain due to the third-round selection of Damien Harris. Make no mistake, Burkhead is a solid running back, but with injuries keeping him off the field during parts of both his seasons in New England, it is possible that Belichick decides to move on and elevate Harris, who impressed in his first preseason appearance last Saturday, to a more prominent role. Burkhead’s play Thursday might give us an idea as to his roster and depth chart standing in 2019.

Trench warfare: A pair of Patriots who were projected starters in the spring appear to have seen their standing tumble to the point where their roster status has been questioned. Third-year defensive end Deatrich Wise Jr. and former Jets defensive tackle Mike Pennel have been playing late into the first two preseason games, dropping down the depth chart behind such veterans as John Simon and Danny Shelton. Neither Wise nor Pennel should be scratched off the roster immediately, but they should not be locked in either, and where – and when – they play Thursday might make more definite their possible use on this year’s Patriots roster, should they make the team as was assumed certain months ago.

Munson the making: Journeyman linebacker Calvin Munson became a surprise focus Saturday night, first taking the field with the starting defense, then playing 76 percent of New England’s defensive snaps and leading the squad with eight tackles. It was mentioned early this offseason that the Patriots higher-ups like Munson (couldn’t find the source), but the returns of Jamie Collins (from Cleveland) and Ja’Whaun Bentley (from injury) have cramped the linebacker depth chart. Can Munson beat out such players as Elandon Roberts and core special teamer Brandon King to stick? We may get a better idea Thursday night.

All I do is Wynn: Isaiah Wynn returned to the gameday field Saturday and looked like the first-round pick he was in 2018, holding up solidly at left tackle. Against a Carolina rush featuring ex-first-rounder Bruce Irvin and current first-rounder Brian Burns, he’ll be tested against stronger competition. Thursday will be the first chance to see not just Wynn on the field, but Wynn against the rush he might see starting in September. It ought to be a splendid ride.

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https://weei.radio.com/blogs/ryan-hannable/what-two-wednesday-trades-mean-patriots-offensive-line

I like that fact that the Patriots are adding depth to the line . Instead of a major deal they opted to start with Wynn at LT and see how he does.

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In other news, the Sox can still reach the 100-win plateau if their current win streak reaches 30 games….

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And as a matter of fact, no, I shouldn’t have poured myself a second Left Hand Brewing Nitro White Russian Stout. But, it is what it is….

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Eleeuumenor, I can’t even spell it. This is an all out Hoomanuanui Alert!!!

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HOOMANAWANUI!! I had to teach myself that one. It’s like someone from Hawaii trying to teach themselves how to spell Machahusets….Matchasu….Masahuchet….ah, wherever the hell Boston is.

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So….do we like the Eluemenor trade or not? I’m so not familiar with him, I had to copy and paste his last name from nfl.com….

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Hard to say, we don’t know what the compensation is yet. The Ravens media seems to think he’s talented but underachieving, which is a combo I trust Scar with unconditionally

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Works for me. Sounds like a bit of a project, though. Also, Eluemenor kinda sounds like a spell that Harry, Ron, and Hermione learned at Hogwarts….

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HA HA HA HA HA!!! I’m watching Victor Cruz, NFL Analyst, say that the Patriots have the best offensive roster in the NFL despite the fact that Edelman will be suspended for the first 4 games of the season.

Really.

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On ESPN Live, broadcast at 1:30 PM today.

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Edelman is suspended?

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Is he thinking of last year?

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No, that’s this year. He was suspended four games at the beginning of this season. He got caught deflating Roger Goodell’s inflatable girlfriend.

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We are trading for some and will trade some before Saturday.

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Field Yates @FieldYates
On whether the Trent Williams will play with another team (via a trade), Redskins president Bruce Allen says: “No, it’ll be with us.”

https://twitter.com/NBC4Sports/status/1166851042312675329

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So you’re sayin there’s a chance!

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Bill says “Hold my screwdriver.”

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Took off drinking for the month of August… really glad I decided to do this now, and not during the playoffs.

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I took off drinking for monday mornings but then I realized…fuck it.

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Remember….you can’t drink all day if you don’t start in the morning.

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If the #Patriots came knocking for the guys at the bottom of my roster during cutdown week, I would rewatch tape of the guys until my eyes bled looking for what I was missing.

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Bedard is a moron

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You never go full Bedard

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Greg A. Bedard @GregABedard I think the Eluemanor deal is a sign Hjalte Froholdt is not where they want him to be and is headed to inactive status for a while. He’s been a little bit of a disappointment. Scouts thought he might push for a starting job as a rookie. I don’t remember anybody of note that thought Froholdt would push Thuney or Mason for the starting job. And because he isn’t pushing to be a starter, he’s a disappointment? I saw him as a guy with potential but needed development because he was pretty raw. That’s pretty much… Read more »

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I can’t disagree with anything you have typed here. But, you know, showing that Bedard is a moron isn’t that hard.

Foholdt is exactly what I thought he was. I’m ready to crown him as likely to have an impact next year.

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Trucks getting ready to deliver BSJ’s TUMS supply.

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That, or cases of Honest Rob’s Magic CBD Elixir.

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Two of them are delivering edibles (maximum THC content). You can keep the CBD.

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Mmm! Mmm! You’ll be effing porn stars in no time!
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Jon Gruden’s “Knock on wood if you’re with me” Remix Song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eMFEZIjH18

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SO i guess with these trades, its’ now offcial that the Pats have another 4 weeks of preseason so the O-line works out the kinks.

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Well, the guys they got will only play if others get injured. So pray for good health on the OL this year. Well, if you had prayed earlier, then Andrews would still be playing. It’s all your fault, MAC.

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It’s funny too, because MAC is you know.. into boats and shit, you’d think he’d be superstitious.

Bet he brings bananas on board when he’s underway!

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Sigh….. Just Orange Dogs who fire cannons, but he’s been AWOL for quite some time.

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NFL says Hunt can’t be with Browns during ban: https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27486021/nfl-says-hunt-browns-ban

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That’s the same for all players under suspension. Once the regular season starts, they can’t be with the team.

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True, but you can’t blame a team for trying.

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Man, Antonio Brown went full douchebag and quick.

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What’d he do now?

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Drank bourbon, said it was better than rum. Such a fool.

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GTFO

G right TFO!

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🙂

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C’mon Zoo, you know its true. Time to face the truth…

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Oh, I just mean in general…

He was pretty quiet for most his career, but that all changed quick within the last year and I feel like it’s only gotten worse since he went to the Raiders.

His latest response to Ben was douche-y too.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001044573/article/wr-antonio-brown-to-big-ben-we-were-never-friends

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Joe Horn Says NFL Should Become Flag Football: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2851437-saints-legend-joe-horn-says-nfl-should-become-flag-football?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral (Technically, he didn’t say that, but we live in a click-bait society)

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About time.

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Curmudgeon.

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The war has been over for a long time.

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So long, Captain Luck. You battled courageously.

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I am going to miss these tweets. Very imaginative and funny.

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I think Carr needs to be rushed to the hospital….

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David Carr said that the #Jets will win the AFC East, not the #Patriots, and that the #Chiefs won’t make the playoffs.

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Anything could happen.

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I’m really starting to worry about you now.

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Do I think it will happen? No- but you never know- there’s too many variables involved.

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I will bet my house that the Pats will not lose the AFC East to the Jets this season.

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Too much summer sun. It takes its toll by this time of year.

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I hope he puts his money on it. 🙂

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I never thought Skinner was going to make this team. The good news is that Wynn at going to start the season as the starting LT. Still 2/5 of the OL will be different this year. I think the OL will be alright but it will be interesting to watch and see if it will be the strength it was last season.

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I think we should trade for Bofa next

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I don’t think we need Bofa them.

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I think not having Cajuste in the mix at OT is really hurting the Patriots depth. If he had been healthy in camp he could have carved out a role for himself. Also, if not for the injury he could have been drafted higher as well.

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Next season dp.

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But I thought I was a jinx?

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Maybe, but I don’t think that has been determined yet. He could be one of the 2 players designated to return. Couldn’t he?

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You don’t have to designate anymore. However he would have to be on the initial 53-man and then put on IR in order to be eligible to return.

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The trades today indicate that he’s no where near ready to play this year.

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Jeff Zrebiec
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Ravens clearly grew frustrated that despite giving Eluemunor every chance to take the LG job, he didn’t seize it. Failed conditioning test, wasn’t in kind of shape Harbaugh wanted, had few injuries and was inconsistent. Has some tools and talent but Ravens grew tired of waiting.

All part of his diabolical plan to get traded to the Pats.

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Can we start trading for some good players now?

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No. Jim had jinxed them all.

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There is no BoSoxJinx, dammit!

“Yes there is” – Cali
“Nuh uh!” – BSJ

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The evidence keeps growing.

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When you purposefully just look at the ones that don’t get selected, of course the list grows.

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Ignorance is bliss- in your mind.

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Oh no, Cali is talking gibberish again. The heat must have gotten to him again.

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Good try Mr. Jinx 🙂

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Oh, Cali. At least you are going down swinging.

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Ditto.

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Thank you Dan and Cole, we have some lovely parting gifts for you.

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No we don’t. Hit the bricks, nerds.

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A Bloody Mary to toast our 37th anniversary- I like it.

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Congrats!!! Celebrated our 33rd 3 weeks ago.

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FWIW:

2017 OGs

8. Jermaine Eluemunor (Texas A&M) [OG/OT] 6’4” 334 lbs 33¼” arm 9½” hand 34 BP 1.85 10yd 5.22 40yd 4.85 SS 7.63 3C 28½” V 8’7” B
[Ravens Round 5 Pick 15 (159)]

in Dante we trust

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They’ll be fine.

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Skipper and Croston are gone.

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Skipper’s lunch is gone.

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Gilligan, too?

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TRADE EM ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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They are.

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Copyright MAC…

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I think someone is about to Skip town

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PS

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Eluemunor Rigby?

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One more trade for an O-Lineman

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Cmon BB, just trade for Fitzgerald 🙂

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That ship has sailed.

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Hmmm- Dwayne Allen and Allen Hurns may not make the Miami roster———->

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If you can’t make the MIAMI roster…. there’s something wrong

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Would the Pats pick up Dwayne Allen?

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Doug Kyed @DougKyed
My current projected OL:

LT Wynn
LG Thuney
C Karras
RG Mason
RT Cannon
OT Cunningham
iOL Froholdt
OL Croston

That final spot is tough. Croston has versatility to play guard or tackle. It could just as easily be James Ferentz or Tyler Gauthier for their ability to play center.

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So Andrews goes to IR?

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most likely

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Greg A. Bedard @GregABedard
Don’t know much about Korey Cunningham yet. @PFF had him for a 60.4 overall rating, 57.5 pass block, 57.2 run block grade last year in 349 LT snaps (209 pass blocking). Allowed 2 sacks, 2 hits, 14 hurries and 4 penalties.

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Doug Kyed @DougKyed
Cunningham, 6-6, 311 pounds, ran a 4.9-second 40-yard dash at his pro day last spring. The Patriots needed a swing tackle behind Isaiah Wynn and Dan Skipper.

He is faster than Tom Brady 🙂

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No clue if he can actually play football. But a 1.75 10 yard split and a 35.5″ vertical are both excellent for a 311 lb OT.

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Wow. Just when I was going to post my roster projection. Time to change it. lol

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what if they cut him tomorrow? 🙂

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That would be a waste of a 6th rounder. We struck gold lots of time in the 6th round.

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Mike Reiss @MikeReiss
Per @FieldYates, the Patriots are expected to send a sixth-round pick to Arizona for OL Korey Cunningham. That is an indication they expect Cunningham to be on their 53-man roster as a likely swing tackle. That primarily impacts Dan Skipper and Cole Croston on the current roster.

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@FieldYates The Patriots are expected to send Arizona a sixth-round pick for Korey Cunningham, per source.

This trade is primarily interesting because they didn’t trade a 5th round pick

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why?

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They rarely keep 5th round picks. They’ve picked 99 times in the last 10 drafts. Used 8 fifth round picks total. 3 of them on specialists (Bailey, Cardona, Mesko)

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Mike Reiss @MikeReiss
Korey Cunningham is a second-year player out of Cincinnati. Listed at 6-6 and 305 pounds. A seventh-round pick in 2018 draft, he played in six games last season (all starts) at left tackle. https://twitter.com/joshweinfuss/status/1166807925559422976

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Pats are trading a 6th round pick.

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Doug Kyed @DougKyed
Former Cardinals offensive lineman Korey Cunningham announced on social media that he was traded to the Patriots.

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AZ OL Korey Cunningham announced on social media that he’s been traded to the Pats——->

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what about a trade for Larry Fitzgerald?

Hope never fades away 🙂

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Irsay should quit drugs

Jim Irsay: I don’t guess we’re better, I know we are
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/

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I’d think so now that King is on IR

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How about a ST player that can also play a position? I think we have sone DB that could do both.

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Not at Ebner’s level. He’s one of the better ST players in the NFL.

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I’d rather have someone who can contribute on offense or defense than a top special teams player (non-kicker).

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Holy Sh*t. I made the practice squad!

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Thanks for not believing in me, Jim.

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You don’t own me!

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He does now.

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That’s illegal.

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Not if you are intellectual property!

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Ha! I have no intellect to own! So there!!!! 🙂

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True statement.

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Damn you, Matty P! I was hoping James Williams would remain unsigned so the Pats could put him on the PS. Well, could still happen after cutdowns.

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And we all know why this didn’t come to fruition…

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Because you suck.

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You never complain…

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Pats should probably keep Hoyer around just to be proactive in having QB coverage at the 2020 OTAs.

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They’re going to keep him.

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indeed. there needs to be at least 1 QB at OTAs, I agree.