Preseason Y Factors 2019: Patriots at Titans

-by DNOMN8R314

Game Two! More backups.

But that’s fine, as it’s preseason and we like projecting rosters around here. And after last week’s preseason beatdown of Detroit, some position battles became a little clearer while others will continue to be dissected snap by snap. The Patriots have already spent a few days in the Nashville heat engaged in joint practices with their pending opponent, and while some standouts have continued to (yep) stand out, other players who have had average or subpar summers have also picked up their play. Who might be some of the New England crew to focus on this Saturday night? Well, let me tell you….

Safety squees: In recent seasons, fans have wondered who might inherit the strong safety position from Patrick Chung, who will turn 32 next week. While Obi Melifonwu has put together a decent camp, tying J.C. Jackson for the summer lead in practice interceptions, newly-signed Terrence Brooks is considered practically locked into a roster spot; Brooks has been known for his special teams prowess but has also been taking early-unit snaps on the practice field. As starters are unlikely to play in this preseason game, we should see plenty of Melifonwu on the field and get a sense of where he stands in preparation for roster cuts.

An act of Cowart-ice: Byron Cowart’s roster status is an unknown. He was selected in the fifth round (where making the roster is not certain), and while he’s missed some time at camp he has done well on the field. With Lawrence Guy, Mike Pennel, and Adam Butler atop the defensive tackle depth chart, Cowart is competing with Danny Shelton, David Parry, and Ufomba Kamalu for a place on the roster. Last week, Cowart came into the game in the second half and recorded half a sack during his 16 snaps; this Saturday, we should get a chance to see whether his workload increases… possibly getting hints to his standing on the depth chart.

I Saubert standing there: The Patriots acquired Eric Saubert earlier this week, and the ex-Falcon has taken some of the practice snaps vacated by the injured Matt LaCosse. Primarily a receiving tight end, Saubert has had extremely limited time with the playbook and the New England offense, and we’ll see how much he plays this week. But another tight end played much more last week….

It Izzo what it Izzo: Second-year blocking tight end Ryan Izzo led all Patriots at the position with 45 offensive snaps against the Lions. Though he dropped a would-be touchdown, his blocking has built off his rookie year, and he outsnapped his primary competition, Stephen Anderson and Andrew Beck, on both offense (45/3/18) and special teams (8/3/3). We’ll see if Izzo can build on that against Tennessee, or if Anderson, Beck, or Saubert can make a dent in his apparent lead in the push for a roster spot.

Slot machines: Braxton Berrios has had moments where his skill has stood out, and he didn’t look out of place on the field against Detroit in his 41 snaps and four punt returns. But neither did UDFA Gunner Olszewski, who received one carry (on a toss), caught one pass, and returned three punts, and nor did he look like he was struggling. Olszewski’s snaps came late in the game against weaker competition, but both slot receivers are making their best cases heading into preseason game number two.

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itsBradyBaby
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Doubt anyone claims Gunner, I think he got it in him to take his game to next level with year learning.

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From what we’ve seen, I’d rather use a PS spot on Berrios than Gunner

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I agree but I think someone scoops him up unlike Gunner.

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Gunner and/or Berrios would fit in Dallas, pretty well. They lost Beasley.

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I don’t agree with roster predictions without Shelton. He played much better at the end of last season and he had 2 solid performances this preseason.

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He was a healthy scratch in December for a few games

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After that, he played well

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Could the Pats cut Pennel?

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Possible and won’t be shock

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I could see it. He’s been playing very deep into preseason games and seems firmly behind Shelton on the depth chart. I think the Pats being heavy on 3 man fronts saves him.

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My surprise cuts
Rivers, ebner, Dawson, Berrios and m. Harris

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Doubt they cut both Harris and Berrios.

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Edelman
Gordon
Dorsett
Harry
Myers

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They will go with 6 plus Slater

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I don’t count him
1 career catch

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Well U got 5 I’m saying 6 plus Slater cus our TE situation isn’t good.

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Who is your wr group?
Harris over Dorsett?

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Also I could see Danny Shelton getting cut as well

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None of these would be a surprise though.

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Really?
A 2nd rd pick in Dawson
A 3rd rd pick from a small school everyone was rooting for
And a special teams vet

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Dawson has been horrible. It’d be disappointing to cut a 2nd rounder this early, but not a surprise. Rivers can’t stay healthy. And Ebner is a special teams vet. Those guys get cut all the time.

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I think Wise is the most plausible surprise cut personally.

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I think he makes it

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Could go either way

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Morning errbody! Just dropping by as I await my further delayed flight to Tulsa. I feel for Ryan Allen especially after his great SB, but I am happy for Bailey (I’m channeling my inner Tom Tupa).

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Could have been SB Mvp

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Hi Saturn. How are you?

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Whoa jimmy glass looks rusty
It’s ok SF, he only counts 27 million per year against the cap
And thanks for all the picks
#Studham

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Eh that line looks crappy in front of him.

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Nope
He looked shaky
Throwing off back foot
Even if gets back to form he will get injured again

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Nice set of stats, Jim. I wish there was an easy way to save that data.

Good night, and may your dreams be of Gordon Goal Line Grabs.

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Record w/50+ pass attempts (including playoffs):

Brady .679 19-9
Romo .429 3-7
Rodgers .286 2-7
Luck .273 3-8
Eli .273 3-8
Roethlisberger 3-9 .250
Ryan .250 2-6
NFL since 2001: .242
Peyton .235 4-13
Brees .211 4-15
Flacco .200 3-12
Rivers .125 1-7

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Winning % w/40+ attempts in game (including playoffs):

Brady .648 (91 games)
Peyton .484 (95)
Romo .393 (28)
Luck .390 (41)
Brees .368 (117)
Rodgers .365 (48)
Roethlisberger .341 (63)
Ryan .310 (58)
Eli .299 (67)
Rivers .269 (52)
Wilson .222 (9)
Newton .206 (17)

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LOL! I knew it would happen. These posts triggered Kacsmar.

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Winning% when team allows >=30 points (including playoffs)

NFL (since 2001): .122

Brady .363
Peyton .245
Ryan .244
Brees .240
Rodgers .232
Roethlisberger .175
Rivers .174
Wilson .158
Luck .143

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Do they have this on their site, or just the tweet? I want to bookmark this when MFers try to talk shit on the GOAT.

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I think just the tweets.

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I’m a little confused with this list tho.. it’s leaving out a lot of QB’s who played in 2001 (or later), but are now retired– Drew Bledsoe, Brett Favre, Testaverde, Brad Johnson..

I assume Brady still tops them all, but still it seems incomplete.

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I think it’s a response to people like Kacsmar that continue to say that Brady gets carried by his defense and that QBs like Peyton, Rodgers and Brees have to overcome their poor defenses.

Don’t think he wanted to do a complete history of the NFL project 🙂

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Winning% when team allows >=21 points (including playoffs)

NFL (since 2001): .257

Brady .561
Peyton .444
Rodgers .433
Luck .411
Brees .366
Rivers .350
Roethlisberger .345
Wilson .319

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bUt He AlWaYs HaS tOp 5 dEfEnSeS

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ALL BELICHICK. BRADY IS OVERRATED.

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HE’S A SYSTEM QB.

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*NFL .266.

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Impersonating you would be even easier than Smack. Plug PFF tweets, Brady fact tweets, check-ins about certain players around the league, gifs, and statements like “there is no such thing” and “don’t make me cut you”

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Should BB trade for CJ Beathard to replace Brady?

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Not while Blake Bortles is still available.

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Dontrelle Inman released by Patriots. Should we sign him?

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Is he a deep throat?

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Gisele is a deep throat 🙂

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She can throw and receive.

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That bitch gotta go!

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where? Your basement?

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GOALLLLLLLL SPORTING
2-1

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I think Smack has hacked hugo’s account

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Joao Roberto has just hacked Benfica’s account 🙂

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If he posts a Tool or Godsmack link I’m pretty sure Smack can sue for identity theft.

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TOOL <3 though

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I’m just gonna talk to myself like when Deadsmack pastes 8,325 things about fútbol or the Lakers.

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I just poured out a little bourbon for our fallen comrade, Ryan Allen, and by “poured out”, I mean “poured down my esophagus”.

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I like bourbon. My wife likes bourbon. Bourbon is good.

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So, how long before Allen ends up in Detroit, Tennessee, or Houston?

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Antonio Brown’s new helmet:

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Post of the week.

How did you get the image to show up?

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I found a site address that allowed me to download it as a JPEG.

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It really needs to be a logo of clown shoes, but nonetheless well done.

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He’ll be back.

Dingo
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As a WR? :>D

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Time to watch Jake Bailey punt the ball into geosynchronous orbit

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someone made a Ryan Allen tribute video already
https://twitter.com/BMac_81/status/1163606498662068224?s=20

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talk about going out on a high note

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Allen isn’t going “out”, he’s going elsewhere.

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Antonio Brown filing another grievance. Either this guy is just using the helmet as an excuse to not go through training camp or he’s just not right in the head.

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Is being a cancer considered an NFI?

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Jimmy G done for the night- had 0 passing yards.

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And a pick.

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Wow.. Jimmy step it up man!

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Yeah, ugly. Too bad we didn’t dump TB12 for him.

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DocFlynn @jessdeede
Former #Patriots WR Malcolm Mitchell made a heart-wrenchingly beautiful film about losing football from his life. Football was woven into his everything – past, present, future.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B1XGYsZBpl-/?igshid=1oglfim663wsi

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I don’t feel terrible for him though. He won a super bowl in epic fashion..

He’s a good kid, he’ll be ok.

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TE Noah Fant goes to the sideline limping- got rolled up on.

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The Pats did good by Ryan Allen, not dragging out the competition longer. He’ll have a chance to punt for another team before September.

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Antonio Brown has filed another grievance with the NFL about his helmet.

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If I were his teammate I wouldn’t talk to him at practice..

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Hey Cali— I’m heading to SanDiego mid September for a training.. going to stick around for the weekend and do a little vacation with my girlfriend.. any suggestions on what part I should stay in, or what we should do?

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Also, Jon, if you’re listening I’m hoping for your* advice too

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Jon lives close to SF.

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I really don’t go to San Diego- haven’t been there in quite a while but there’s always Sea World, San Diego Zoo, San Diego Wild Animal Park- if you can stay at the Del Coronado Hotel- really beautiful place- very historic.

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Thanks I’ll look into it!

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SF gonna offer another pick for Stidham next?

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By the end of this game.

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Jimmy almost picked again.

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SF o-line doesn’t look that great.

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I want to thank Ryan Allen, he was also a big part of 3 SB wins. I’m sure he will find a new team soon.
PS: Gost should also see this as big warning

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Bomb Bailey

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Jimmy G picked.

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I saw Bailey once had a hang time of 28.3s punting a pencil. A fookin pencil. 😉

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Jake Bailey once punted a NASA satellite into orbit. 3 years later they discovered a new galaxy.

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I bet Jake Bailey could punt it over that friggin’ mountain!

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That’s nothing. I ate taco bell once and had a hang time of 10-12 minutes.

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TMI

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I can PM you the details.

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Chuck Norris wears Jake Bailey PJs.

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Jake Bailey follows SportsTalkJoe on Twitter.

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Allen wasn’t always consistent, but man he came in clutch in some big games.

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Yeah, he had some awesome punts. Teams have a short term memory he will land a gig bas d on his SB performance alone.

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They regained almost all the cap space they lost when they got Gordon back.

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Allen and Gordon take up nearly the same cap space? Whoa.

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Special teams, man. 🙂

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Allen and Inman almost equal Gordon.

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Hmm a rookie punter, Allen punted big in big games hope the rookie is worth it.

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A few years back, Allen was the Patriots’ rookie punter. It can work.

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He also can take over kickoff duties. Maybe Gost will stop missing kicks.

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I thought the Bailey and Allen fight was going to last longer but maybe BB wanted to give Allen more time to find a job. He should be able to do just that. I just hope it is out of the division and conference.

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BB has wanted to get rid of Allen for at least a couple years. That’s what the Bojorquez thing was about last year. He saw enough. I don’t think it was a favor to Allen.

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Overheard during Saturday’s preseason game-

Belichick: “Hey, Ryan. You ever heard of Julian Edelman?”

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The moment I saw the official hangtime on that puny as 5.1 s, I knew Allen was gone.

All Allens shall be purged!

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You’ve done a far better job purging Allens from the roster than Jim has had with Brandons.

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Like this move. Thought Allen was average to below avg for a while now

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He’ll be in high demand.

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How are you, memo?

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Feels like yesterday when Mesko was moved in favour of Ryan Allen

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Mesko never found a permanent gig after that. Beware, Allen.

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The Jake Bailey era has begun.
Ryan Allen released.

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He played great in the Super Bowl. He’ll always have that!

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Yikes- that’s a lot of lightening—————->

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sparky bois

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So there was talk that Winovich was going to be given a waiver from having his head shaved. It looks like there was some kind of compromise. I have DVRs of game 1 and 2, and his long blond locks reached to the numbers on his uni in week 1. On Saturday, you could see little tufts sticking out from under the helmet. So they cut off about 8 inches and left the rest.

—your once per preseason New England Patriots Hazing Report

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I thought he had just pulled it back into a pony tail and tucked it into the back of his helmet. Haircuts don’t usually happen until the final roster is announced.

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That’s really not what it looked like to me. They were blond stubs.

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Edleman removed from NFI———–>

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A big Thumbs Up for that !!!

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Gotta give you a hand for that pun.

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Nailed it, didn’t I?

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What is the theme of this pun thread? I can’t put my finger on it.

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That’s cuz you’re a knucklehead

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That’s strange. I figured your prints would be all over this.

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Yeah, I’m used to y’all eating out of the palm of my hand with the puns

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I knew you weren’t mano y mano.

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Allrighty folks, I’m outta here. Time to head home and fight traffic. Would love to continue punning with you all but gotta get home now. Carpal Diem.

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STIDGANG

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sounds like a disease

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There’s only one known cure. Trade Brady! 🙂

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There is only one response to this….
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Well, there is more than one response. This just happens to be the most satisfying.

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It could happen.

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30 seconds of hell.

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That’s what my wife calls sex

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30 seconds! Damn, what’s your secret?

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numbing cream

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Man this thread went rancid in a hurry……..

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SportsTalkJoe/Barry kicked off Twitter many times for racist comments. Scott Kacsmar fired from Football Outsiders for racist comments. Both unite in their jealousy of TB12.

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Chris Sale not expected to need elbow surgery.

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finally some good Sox news