Potential New 2019 Tom Brady Touchdown Targets

-by DNOMN8R314

Against the Indianapolis Colts last year, Tom Brady threw a 34-yard touchdown pass to Josh Gordon in the front corner of the end zone. That score set two milestones: it was the 500th TD throw of Brady’s career, and Gordon became the 71st player to catch a scoring toss from Brady, breaking the mark of 70 set by Vinny Testaverde. But Brady’s lead in this category is not a large one – though Testaverde is (obviously) no longer quarterbacking, Drew Brees upped his total to 66 during the 2018 season. With new additions at receiver, tight end, and running back, Brady has a chance to maintain or expand that lead in 2019. Here are some of the players who should have opportunities to catch TD12s this season.

N’Keal Harry: Bill Belichicks first top-round receiver, Harry enters Foxboro with significant expectations as an outside pass-catcher and red zone target, among other roles. As he’ll be expected to take up some of Rob Gronkowski’s vacated production inside the 20, he should have a good number of opportunities in the end zone.

Matt LaCosse: LaCosse was the first tight end signed by New England in free agency and he has remained alongside Benjamin Watson atop the depth chart in camp. With Watson suspended four weeks, LaCosse should receive the majority of tight end snaps early, and will be at minimum another option in the red zone.

Maurice Harris: In spring and through the start of camp, Harris has showed impressive hands and versatility while developing a rapport with Brady. If he keeps trending upward, he’ll get opportunities all over the field.

Damien Harris: The second of three Harrises on the New England roster, Harris has already established himself with Rex Burkhead in the “versatility” echelon within the running back corps. Since his third-round selection, he’s been expected to be part of the running back rotation, and like Burkhead he should see targets.

Stephen Anderson: Last year’s practice squadder is in the mix for the third tight end spot; unlike Ryan Izzo, Andrew Beck, and Lance Kendricks, Anderson’s production at the position mostly comes in the receiving game. Should he make the squad, he’ll likely see limited snaps, but he’d likely receive a few targets within those on-field snaps.

Braxton Berrios, Jakobi Meyers, Ryan Davis, Gunner Olszewski: The three UDFAs and one second-year redshirt are competing not just for the fifth spot on the depth chart, but for opportunities on special teams and out of the slot. Expectations shouldn’t yet be high for any of this group who makes the team, but those who do should get at least a few – even if only a few – chances on offense.

James Develin: Develin’s sole TD12 came in the playoffs, during the ’14-’15 AFC Championship Game, so his doesn’t count on the list. One of these days….

Matthew Slater: Slater is on this list because he occasionally takes goal line snaps as a blocker on running plays. I’ve said this before and I’ll repeat it now: I’m waiting for the Patriots to call a play action with Slater on the field, the defense expecting him to block, and for him to slip open and grab a TD12 of his own.

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24 hours until we get to see our beloved Patriots. Fooseball!!!

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Well, with Skipper and Ivey as OTs, we’ll get to see how Stidham handles pressure tomorrow night.

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Although Detroit’s pass rush was no bueno last year and Flowers isn’t playing, so maybe it will be a wash.

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Daniels probably won’t play much, if at all, either.

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Just relax Jim.

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You know what could help him relax? Start popping your pills, Jimbo!

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I’ll relax when I’m dead. Football is back, baby!

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Not until tomorrow.

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🙂

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It is what it is.

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So Antonio Brown wore what, flip-flops into the cryogenic chamber? Some people are smart, and some are not smart.

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Is he getting frozen, Ted Williams style?

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Just the opposite: His head was the only thing outside the cryo box!

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I don’t believe anyone ever said he was smart.

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Gruden said it 🙂

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As I said- no one.

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I actually argued with myself about opening this but now I need to go bleach my eyes.

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How did you get my picture???

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C’mon, Dino. We all know that this is the real you….

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Eli Manning getting paid more than Tom Brady makes me sick – Ryan Clark | First Take
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He’s just trying to make up for calling Aaron Donald the Michael Jordan of football.

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The new album, Fear Inoculum, available August 30th

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Did you get nailed while you were hammered?

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Well this convo just ratcheted up a notch.

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He totally should’ve socket to ’em

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Get a vice grip, Jdog, and take it easy now!

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I’m awl in on this thread.

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I totally saw that coming, Jim!

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Who axed you, bro?

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Nobody, I’ve just seen this drill before.

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Me too. But just a little bit

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Hate to put a wrench in this thread but I’m out of puns.

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Then tap out.

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I hope so. It was as plane as day.

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then you’re screwed

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Hope he wasn’t gang raked

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like a hoe

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He should’ve spade more attention to his surroundings

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How Phallic.

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it will level off pretty soon

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Does it measure up to your standards?

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Gives me a hardie

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More Jakobi Meyers hype.
More Duke Dawson struggles.
More love for Chase Winovich.

Eight things we learned from a week of Patriots-Lions joint practices: http://nesn.com/?p=968869

Do the Skins have DBs worse than Dawson? Maybe we can sweeten the pot for Williams.

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Goodbye, Develin! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIx5ZmA2NsU

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[Verse]
It was early mornin’ yesterday
I was up before the dawn
And I really have enjoyed my stay
But Develin must be movin’ on

[Chorus]
Goodbye Develin
It’s been nice
Hope you find your
Paradise
Come tomorrow
Feel no pain
Feel no pain
Develin
Develin
Develin
Develin’s goin’ away
See ya
See ya, Develin
See ya
Oh

[Outro]
Goodbye Develin
Goodbye Develin
Goodbye Develin
Goodbye Develin

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Just watched some of his highlights and I must have missed the “jolt of athleticism”. Develin stays.

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He’s a really good blocker that can be moved all over the place and might actually be a threat in the passing game.

Take the Chicago game last year. People yelling at Brady “Why on Earth would you throw it to Develin?”.

Also, I can’t get the vision of Develin getting annihilated by Jalen Ramsey out of my head.

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* He was a really good blocker in college….need to see how he handles it now.

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The Develin is in the details, baby!

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Beck responds….

“Soy un perdedor
Develin’s a loser baby so why don’t you kill him?”

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He’s also got a Develin’s haircut, in my mind.

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I never liked Beck’s music so all Becks must be purged!

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That will be a new pollution

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It’s #GronkDay! As we begin the season without the best TE to lace ’em up, we celebrate the player and the person! Thank you for being #Gronk! #Patriots fans, What’s your favorite Gronk moment on or off the field?
#YoSoyFiesta #alwaysapatriot #LFG #gronkspike
https://twitter.com/MHypeman/status/1159104616807706624

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WOWWWW

Kenny Stills calling out the owner of his own team about politics.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/27341619/stills-calls-fins-owner-trump-fundraiser

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Will they cut him?
I wouldn’t mind if Pats sign him

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I see a flaw in your plan.

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He is still a Dolphin … for now

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Why would they cut him?

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Politics

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PSA: Don’t pose for a photo with an octopus on your face….

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“I figured if we had nothing to say to each other he would get bored; go away. But instead he uses it as an excuse to put his testicles all over me.”

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The only benefit of being exiled in Michigan, is being able to see yesterdays practice in Detroit. The few things that stood out in person: 1. Chase looks quick and has that motor a la Bruschi, Nink… 2. Meyers does catch everything and looks natural. 3. Harry is a beast, but doesn’t look fast and he got hurt during practice. 4. Watson isn’t fast either, but still knows how to get open and looks like a better receiver than he was a decade ago. 5. I saw Rivers look real good in 1on1 drills. 6. Berrios made some good plays,… Read more »

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PS – I miss Amendola.

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#Seahawks TE Jacob Hollister has “been as impressive as anyone on the roster” catching passes, “including DK Metcalf,” in training camp. Legit shot to be SEA’s No. 1 tight end:

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likely because Wilson will actually throw to him. Amazing what can happen when someone actually gives you a chance.

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Brady did throw it to him. And every time he did, Hollister would get hurt.

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clearly he was not drinking enough TB12 Injury Prevention Water

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Talent wasn’t the issue. Being made of glass was. Wish him luck.

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he’ll be on IR by preseason Week 3

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So did the s*** hit the fan?

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ask Deandre Hopkins. Or am I thinking of someone else?

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Mark Harrison perhaps?

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The fan, mirror, walls, ceiling and floor. Oh no…the toothbrushes.

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From smashing pumpkins to smashing shitters

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Via Carter Brooks of Game On Magazine in Winnipeg, only 8,944 tickets have been sold to the preseason game. That’s 27 percent of the 33,000-seat capacity at IG Field.
One of the problems could be the price point. Via Brooks, the cheapest ticket costs $191.50 Canadian. This equates to $143.70 in American dollars, under the current conversion rate.

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The NFL should lower the ticket prices and let DirecTV carry the games by charging subscribers an additional charge.

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Gee, can’t figure out why so few people in Canada are willing to shell out that kind of money to watch starters play a vanilla gameplan for maybe a few series.

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I know. What kind of hazelnut-job would want to shell out for that?

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If the NFL caramels at all, they’d lower the ticket prices.

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I’m sure they’ll fudge the sales numbers to make them look respectable.

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Yeah, or they’ll chocolate all up to people being out of town on summer vacation.

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That’s a pretty rocky road ahead for those folks

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They’ll get their just desserts

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This kinda made me snicker a little bit.

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I agree. If healthy. Baller.

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What is his injury?

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Breakout season in 2016. Torn ACL in 2017 offseason. Saints signed him as RFA in 2018, played only 6 games for Saints, never fully recovered.

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Maybe Edelman can introduce him to his ACL guy.

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nah. just needs to improve his pliability a little

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What’s the timeline for Meredith, do we have any idea?

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Edelman Dorsett Harry Slater , only 2 spots left and it’s on a temp basis because Gordon and Thomas are lurking even though I’m not so high on Thomas, no chemistry with Brady and injury hampering it from developing if there can be on is not good for a vet receiver trying to make NE team.
Even if you remove Slater and Josh return and Thomas can stick it will really be only one WR spot available.
Edelman Dorsett Harry Gordon Thomas.

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I’m not expecting anything from Thomas with the Pats, ever. Gordon, on the other hand, could fit right in as soon as the NFL decides to reinstate him.

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I think Harris and Meyers will make it.

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I rather this scenario, not much trust in Thomas health nor his ability to click with TB after missing all this time.

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I think it is too early to tell.I like what saw from Myers in the one practice I saw. That said he could drop some passes against the Lions and fans could jump off the wagon. It will take more than one good preseason game for him to make this team.

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True but he’s starting to get consistent, we will see what he do in game action.

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Mark Daniels

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Shilique Calhoun continues to be one of the surprises of Patriots camp https://www.providencejournal.com/sports/20190807/shilique-calhoun-continues-to-be-one-of-surprises-of-patriots-camp

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would be nice to have another OLB on the roster who can rush the passer

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looks like Danny Amendola graduated Summa Cum Laude from the BoSoxJim School of Tom Brady Immortality

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Danny is an honorary Asian…like DNOM

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What did he do to earn that status? Did you get to him too?

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he’s good at math. not sure how good his driving is.

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camp today! Is @TeamJuJu
ready to be WR1?

Most Rec Yds Prior to Turning 23 – NFL History

Randy Moss 2,726
Josh Gordon 2,451
JuJu Smith-Schuster 2,343
Mike Evans 2,257
Amari Cooper 2,223
Larry Fitzgerald 2,189

What could have been for Josh Gordon 🙁

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yep. sad.

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His career was up in smoke

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Bad Jdog! Very bad!

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Not my fault he was a dope

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everything went to pot with him, didn’t it?

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If he comes back it’s a bonus but weed don’t need him.

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well, hopefully he comes back because Brady was high on him

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So Pennel is not on the too-good-to-play-game-one list?

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Well, he’s a newbie and not an established vet.

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I’m going to be confusing the Harrises for a while. I think I need to up my Harris game.

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They need nicknames.

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RB1 and Mo 😉

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So what have you got for Trent?

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Better luck next year?

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The other guy (like the 3rd Tenor in Seinfeld)

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Both Iman and Maurice didn’t take part in walkthrough today.
I hope they dont trade Harris.

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why would they trade M. Harris? He’s been one of the few bright spots at the position in camp, and they are still very thin there.

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Just a feeling.

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relax, buddy. I think your boy is pretty safe. unless of course Berrios goes 10-100-2 tomorrow night

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He’s also safe because BoSoxJinx hasn’t endorsed him yet.

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Thank goodness.

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Maurice Harris is a 100%, stone cold lock for the 53-man roster

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That’s cruel. What did he ever do to you?

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Just continuing to prove that there is no BoSoxJinx

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Isabella is still limping.

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Surprised you haven’t blamed me for Harry’s hammy yet.

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It will depend on how severe it is.

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Westy!

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ha, just noticed that. Westy is lurking!!!

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“Expect to see Gunner Olszewski on kick returns and Braxton Berrios on punts.” -Kyed

Come on, boys. Who wants a spot? Make a play!

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and then the season starts and edelman is back on the first punt

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I hope not Too much depends on him this year for him to be on ST.

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seems like every season, fans want to limit his injury risk, and BB wants to limit the “bad play” risk, so he just trots Edelman out there again and again.

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Yes, but at some point it’s going to backfire. I mean, TB12 used to run QB sneaks all the time. BB has been smart enough to cut way back on that. Imagine the Patriots’ WR corps without Edelman.

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oh I’m with you.

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exactly – we’ve been guessing at the next punt return guy for many years now

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any guesses on the rookie everyone will be talking about on friday? i will say harris or meyers

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winovich

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Definitely Harris. With Michel, Burkhead and White all not active, it wouldn’t surprise me if he gets over 20 touches.

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Yeah, I feel like the first preseason game is usually run heavy anyway.

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Yeah, preseason in general is run heavy. The 1st and 4th games in particular, when they get to the 4th quarter you don’t see much passing.
Perhaps its just unrealistic to practice the run game because of contact limits. So the preseason games are more valuable for run reps than pass reps.

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maybe brossette too then

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shouldn’t it be Bruhssette?

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unless you are the Seahawks or Ravens. In which case you disregard the contact rules with no punishment.

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Possibly Stidham.

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let’s hope. I’d love to see the Pats be back to only carrying 2 QBs on the roster in 2020

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A.J.! 🙂

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Did their 8 other TEs in camp all get hurt or retire? This sounds like desperation.

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Now you’re just being mean.

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well, Saints fans are likely making similar comments about our LT situation.

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Michel is 8 of 8 catching passes from Brady in camp so far? Who says he can’t run proper routes to the flat?

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Coming out of Georgia, I thought one thing the Pats would do is use him in the pass game due to his big play ability (he showed the ability to take everything to the house in college, hasn’t done yet in the nfl). I was surprised by how bad he looked catching a football, he seemed to drop everything. I think it would add a great deal to Michel’s value if he can be a factor in the pass game.

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It would be huge for the Pats offense in general. It would mean that all the RBs are competent pass catchers.

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is Burkhead hurt?

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apparently. again.

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i wonder if he’s safe? harris is definitely on the team, and bolden can play in a pinch

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the longer he’s out, the tougher it will be for him. Although he’s likely our closest skill set replacement for White. But yeah, if Bolden is still showing well on ST, and Harris looks like he’s ready to contribute, I could see them cutting Burkhead if they are comfortable keeping only 4 RBs plus Develin. I’d rather the Pats keep 5 RBs plus Develin, though, and go a little lighter at WR or TE.

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I think cutting him creates around 500k in cap penalty and doesn’t free up anything

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good point – i read through all the contracts a while ago and no one had an obvious cut

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IR it is!

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Now that the projected absences have been put out there, we can narrow down some positions where the competition guys well get more reps.
EDGE – None of the big OLBs means more reps for Rivers, Winovich, John Simon, and Calhoun as pass rushers. Who stands out?
LT – not so much a competition, as a chance to see exactly how worried about Dan Skipper we should be.
S – Neither of the starting safeties is playing, so lots of reps for Melinfonwu and Brooks, and whichever special teamers they put there. Who has which job, who plays well, etc?

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Good point on LT 🙂

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I’m interested in FB/TE, mainly to see if Beck, Izzo, Anderson, etc. even have what it takes to be backups for the Pats. At this point I’m still thinking they only go into the season with Lacosse, Develin, and a suspended Watson.

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Their first-team O was both Watson and Lacosse yesterday, FWIW

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Beck replaces Develin! Make it happen, BB.

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maybe in 2020 if Beck can even make the PS this season.

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Always so negative, Hunter. You should be more like me and always be positive about players.

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I’m very positive. About Develin!

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Skippper looked slow in the one day of practice I saw. I don’t think were can count on him to do much. Be afraid, be very afraid 🙂

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oh, I’ve been terrified for weeks now

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skipper is a backup – these reps will help him in the future if anyone gets hurt – nobody liked fleming or waddle either

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I thought that both Fleming and Waddle were serviceable. I’d be ecstatic if players of that caliber were on the Pats roster right now. Skipper and Lang should be trying out for the CFL right now.

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assuming these reps will tell the story – up or down
edit – also meant that no one liked waddle or fleming as a starter

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I liked Waddle. I think he’s out for the year at Buffalo now

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Players I’m excited to see tomorrow:

Stidham, Froholdt, Meyers, Winowich the goat, Calhoun, Gant.

This excitement will probably last for 3-4 drives.

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not excited to see Skipper and Lang at LT? The Montreal Allouettes scouts are. Although not as excited as the Lions DEs will be.

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Sh*t, its news to me that we have a player called Lang at LT

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here’s the problem, though… we actually have NO ONE at LT

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True.That Veldheer retirement was pretty big, I’d be comfortable if we had him

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yeah, I’m hoping that was a huge surprise to BB, because if not, and they knew he was thinking about retiring, the Pats missed the mark bigtime at LT in the offseason.

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3 OL retirements probably surprised him

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3?

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Jared Veldheer, Brian Schwenke & J.J. Dielman

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but only one of those was a T, right? Our G depth has always been fine this offseason.

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Everyone wants to retire as a Patriot….

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And Damien Harris of course

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don’t forget Obi

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And Jake Bailey the cannon

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Obi will look great in a Texans uniform

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@ZackCoxNESN A bunch of Patriots starters — including Brady, Gilmore, Hightower, Van Noy, Bennett, McCourtys, Chung, Collins, Michel, White — aren’t participating in this quarter-speed walkthrough. N’Keal Harry’s sitting out, too. I’d be surprised if any of them played tomorrow night
Interesting to see Collins in the preseason-game-1-is-beneath-him group.

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Bennett too. I know he’s a vet, but couldn’t he use some reps to help him gel with the scheme faster? It would be different if this were merely a pin-your-ears-back DE scheme, but it’s not.

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He’s their #1 D-lineman. IMO its not surprising that they’d want to keep him out of harm’s way.
The Collins inclusion is just interesting because it’s further confirmation that the team really does see Collins as one of their impact starters. Not a guy in competition for their spot.

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right, I just meant that Bennett is so new to the team, and BB wants his DEs versatile in both run and pass, and the Eagles/Seahawks systems were likely very different.

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I think that the aspects of Bennett’s role that have appreciable team/scheme context to learn, are things you won’t do in first week of preseason anyway. Stunts, pass rush games, run blitz etc.

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ok, yeah, that makes sense

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@MarkDanielsPJ Looks like no Brady today, which likely means no Brady tomorrow. Looks like a lot of starters will sit out the preseason opener

TOMORROW… football’s back boys

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Football was back in May. It’s just that we’re getting used to Brady not being present.

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Is the game streamed free somewhere (legally)? I don’t want to have to wait until the NFL Network replay to watch it.

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I just purchased ESPN+ last night, so that I could watch ATL United in the US Open Cup semifinal. I have no idea if NFL preseason games have an agreement with ESPN to be streamed on ESPN+, probably not, but I hope so.

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We pillage and plunder and rifle and loot, drink up me hearties yo ho!

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JDog had better not go for the pirate eye-patch look. He can hardly see out of both eyes as it is.

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@cpriceNFL
At the end of last season, Ivan Fears lamented to me how little they used Michel in the passing game. Looks like that might change in 2019. https://twitter.com/BGlobeSports/status/1159086821072130049

now we’re getting somewhere…

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Hell yes, Bill, get Ed Reed on your coaching staff! Make this happen, Kraft, you cheapskate!

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Is there new development? Or is this regarding last week’s interview where Ed said he wanted to coach on the Pats?

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Hunter’s just getting caught up. Wait till he gets to the news that Trent Williams had a good practice with the Patriots.

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Really? I heard Dante Scarnecchia’s cryogenically frozen head had to do a lap with them when Williams was called for a false start.

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Hunter might be referring to the Reed interview on The Dan Patrick show.

If Belichick thinks Reed will add value, I’m pretty sure Kraft doesn’t care how much he would cost. Assistant coaches don’t have massive contracts like players, and even the most generous one typically is a couple mill a year.

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Oh I was kidding about Kraft being cheap. He spends plenty of money on the team outside of the cap restrictions. He’s even starting to spend money on Revolution, it seems!

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I don’t really get this “loaded at LB” thing. Sure, our starters are good, but beyond that, especially if we are going to run a lot of 4LB sets this season, is our depth really that good? A bunch of unproven guys and run stuffers, IMO. I don’t see us as having a great coverage unit either. pass rushing and run stopping should be there, though. I’m not complaining about our LBs, the situation is good, I just don’t think I’d use the word “loaded.”

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A part of that is Hightower and Van Noy showing confidence in there team. I agree with you on the coverage part but think they are better off at the position they they have been for the last two or three years. That said Bentley still has to proven it on the field.

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I’ll agree with that. If Cowwins is re-integrating as well as the reports say, I do think the Pats will be able to confuse opposing offenses with the versatility of HT/KVN/Cowwins.

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also, I think Mayo’s leadership will be HUGE for that unit as well. He’s respected and knows the system as well as anyone. I know folks have been talking about this, but I still think it is an underrated part of the offseason changes.

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I went to training camp one day and Mayo seemed very involved.

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Last season was a small sample with Bentley, yes. But look at other rosters, who’s the 3rd LB? 4th LB? To have a 4th LB who can play is really unusual.
Hell, the Pats have a 5th guy in Roberts who has played a bunch. Wouldn’t surprise me if another team traded a conditional 7th for him or something before cutdowns.

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If Sam, Hall, Bentley are ready to step up, I’d be all for trading Roberts.

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https://weei.radio.com/blogs/ryan-hannable/patriots-danny-etling-wide-receiver-inner-circle-says-never-count-him-out

I think Etling will be cut but end up on the PS and will gill the Pats a 4th QB.

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If we have 3 QBs on the active roster, is it really necessary to have a 4th QB on the PS? I mean, are there even scout team snaps for him? Wouldn’t those go to Stidham? Unless they are going to cut Hoyer, I think they should just cut Etling. I’d rather see a developmental WR or TE or OL or DL take that PS spot. Or even one of our young CBs who in any other year would make the 53. Although I’d be completely fine with Etling contracting the Foxboro Flu.

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You never mentioned a QB getting hurt during the season. Yes, that is possible. Hoyer is not going to be here that much longer past this year if Stidham improves. Also, BB is trying to put Etling in a position where he can play more than QB.

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if BB is serious about Etling’s position change, then sure. And even if a QB gets hurt during the season, 3 on the active roster covers that, and you just pick up a street QB if it gets to that point. And a street vet probably provides you with more at the position than Etling does.

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If Etling is on the PS when a QB gets hurt they don’t have to activate him and he will know the system better than a street QB if the need him.

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a 4th QB is a luxury the Pats can’t afford, IMO. If any of the top 3 QBs get hurt, the Pats are going to make moves at the position, regardless of Etling being here or not, and how well he does or doesn’t know the system.

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Even on the PS? I don’t t think it is luxury to have a player that can play 2 positions as opposed to a street QB we don’t even know who that is that doesn’t know the plays. Etling must know the plays he was her last year. Did you read the article I posted on Etling?

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yes, I’ve read that and many other articles on the same topic. Again, IMO, I’d rather use that PS spot on a position where we are a lot thinner. I’d feel much differently if Stidham weren’t doing well.

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Field Yates

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Base value of Cam Meredith’s deal with the Patriots: two-years, $2.02M with no guaranteed money and injury waivers for both years. A chance for Meredith to get healthy, while the Patriots take a low-risk flier at a position of need.

I like it. He was a baller in Chicago. If he can get healthy, this might be a steal. Or it might be nothing, but if it’s nothing, the Pats still don’t lose.

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I think it will be a wide open competition at WR this year for the Patriots.

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I can’t imagine any other team has more unusable (currently) veteran depth than the Pats. Gordon, Thomas, and Meredith??? If healthy, that’s potentially a top starting unit in the entire League.

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in other news that cashner trade has really turned out well for the sox… -_-

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I’ve already done my whining about Cashner.

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So, Bedard really thinks lowly of the WR group, huh? haha

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Harry, Edelman, Dorsett, Harris, Meyers, Slater, Yet-to-be-signed WR

There is your depth chart for Week 1. Possibly without the Yet-to-be-signed WR, depending on how many TEs and RBs they carry.

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Options for roster cuts for the purposes of cap savings*: Demariyus Thomas ($2,756,250) Nate Ebner ($2,187,500) Philip Dorsett ($2,100,000) Elandon Roberts ($2,025,000) Would you cut any one or more of these players in order to gain enough cap space to trade, say, a fourth-round pick and an autographed copy of The TB12 Method for Trent WIlliams? The Pats need to gain about $1.85M in cap room just to fit his base salary under the cap, and I have no idea how they would handle the rest of his signing bonus, but would getting rid of any of these players for… Read more »

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Keep Dorsett, cut the others – Sam can replace Roberts

Not interested in Trent Williams

Edit – Thomas on PUP so no need to cut

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Not interested in a Pro Bowl LT? Cool, we’ll stick with the Block Skipper!

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Too old – good one on Skipper though – no one believes he’s the LT

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I’m totally fine with an “old” Tackle (same age as Solder) when he’s still one of the best at his position. Gives time for Wynn to heal and learn.

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Trent Williams just turned 31. Well past retirement age for OTs.

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Matt Light retired.

At age 34.

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Joe Staley is 34. I can’t believe he’s played this long!

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Yup too old

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Since when?

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He wants new long term deal – no thanks, too old

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Says who? He didn’t ask for more money until after he requested a trade and was denied.

He could come to the Pats, they could restructure the deal so that he’s a FA after this season and then he can get a big deal from another team.

Kind of like BB trading a 1st round draft pick for a WR that was never going to be more than a 1-yr rental.

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Zzzzzzzzzz

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Sorry if you’re incapable of comprehending this. Maybe you should sit this one out from now on.

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I know that the dude is lying.

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We’re 30 days from the start of the season and Wynn hasn’t hit another person since he was injured (after playing a handful of snaps) in the 1st pre-season game last year.

If he were a seasoned vet, it wouldn’t be that big of a deal, but he isn’t. He’s basically still a rookie.

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and one who is arguably undersized for his position at that…

its not ideal

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We’re not looking at Williams as a long-term player for the Pats. We’re looking for a bridge until Wynn is completely healthy (if he were completely healthy now he would be practicing). While Williams is here, Wynn could be the swing while learning from one of he best LTs in the NFL.

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Wynn is healed

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Yeah, he’s been killing it the last two seasons. Brady and his 42-year-old self are safe!

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You know more than BB – thank god you’re posting here

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Oh, snap!

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Biz Markie?

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but I thought you said he was just a friend?

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Admit that you were wrong and that you would love Trent Williams here.

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I’m glad we didn’t re-sign Solder’s old ass!

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Yeah – great deal for the Gmen

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Nice try pal

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So, if Trent Williams gets traded/signed will you hate it? You’ll boycott Belichick because you know more than him and post here?

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Don’t waste any more of your time, zoo.

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Yeah – you two make a cute pair

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Thanks! We strive for the cuteness!

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if you don’t want Trent Williams, fine, but BB must make a move at LT. The status quo (sucky Skipper, even suckier Lang, and gimpy/unknowns Wynn and Cajuste) will NOT cut it for a team that despite having otherwise realistic SB aspirations, also has an ancient QB one hit away from retirement, and with very little help on the OL from TEs.

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And yet has not taken one significant snap since tearing his Achilles.

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1st preseason game is Thursday, but our supposed starting LT hasn’t practiced yet. 30 days from the start of the season.

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LMAO!

How old is Andrew Whitworth?

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His 37-year-old self was only the #3 rated Tackle last year.

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roberts seems like the most expendable of the group… and thomas could be the least likely to actually be productive… so i’d dump those two guys…

i think ebner is one of those core STs guys who will stick around forever

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Is Ebner still on PUP?

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Dorsett and Roberts aren’t going anywhere, though.

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They need $11.25MM to fit Williams under the cap. They have $13MM now. They can also convert his 2019 salary to signing bonus if they want more room.

What signing bonus do they have to fit? Washington already paid it.

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Any prorated bonus you see is their responsibility. That would be dead money on their end.

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Pats don’t have to cut anybody to trade for Williams. If they don’t want to convert any of Williams 2019 salary to signing bonus but want more cap room, they can extend Van Noy (last year of his deal).

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hey guys… what a boring day… seems like nothing interesting was reported on and there has been literally zero to discuss

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Except for the Patriots releasing Hightower, but hey, we all saw that coming, right?

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is that it? I thought they fired Bill

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I don’t think Shawne Merriman appreciates my sense of humor.

https://twitter.com/shawnemerriman/status/1158758730357342210

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LOL!!

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Good job trolling former NFL players, Jim.

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Everybody needs a hobby….

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He deserves it….

Shawne Merriman

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What happened to forever hating a organization and fanbase, to be honest I would’ve never played for the Patriots.

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BoSoxJim, defender of the Patriots and the City of Bahston. What will the world look like without the striped underwear crusader!

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Your top 5 NFL QB’s in 2019?

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1 – Brady
2 – Rodgers
3 – Brees
4 – Mahomes
5 – Wilson

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1. Pat Mahomes
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Drew Brees
4. Russel Wilson
5. Sam Darnold

32. Stidham

🙂

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33. Hoyer
69. Brady

😀

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Congrats on Dybala. Should be a fun season!

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Arsenal are not interested in signing Barcelona playmaker Philippe Coutinho this summer but north London rivals Tottenham remain keen, sources have told ESPN FC.

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MattDog #N'KealHarryToThePats

I saw that. Damn his value went down. I still think he’s a really good player in the right situation.

MattDog #N'KealHarryToThePats
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MattDog #N'KealHarryToThePats

But that story was out before the Dybala news. Surely, they can’t afford both?

Deadsmack #GreenShirtGuy
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Deadsmack #GreenShirtGuy

time will tell

dfwpatsfan
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dfwpatsfan

Too inconsistent. He’s not a game changer by himself. He can’t keep up the consistency in an aging Barca midfield. Not surprised.

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Deadsmack #GreenShirtGuy

I didn’t know Kellen Moore is the new Cowboys OC. I’m really happy for him.
I think he deserved a chance in the NFL to play as QB. But at least they are giving a chance as OC.

BoSoxJim
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BoSoxJim

He did get a chance to play in the NFL and he sucked.

Deadsmack #GreenShirtGuy
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Deadsmack #GreenShirtGuy

3 games in 2015??!!! Even Boyce got more chances

BoSoxJim
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BoSoxJim

If he showed any team he had the chops to play QB in the NFL, he’d be a backup on some team right now.

Deadsmack #GreenShirtGuy
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Deadsmack #GreenShirtGuy

The same goes for Boyce

itsBradyBaby
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itsBradyBaby

Oh boy, lmao

BoSoxJim
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BoSoxJim

Am I arguing that Boyce should be on an NFL team right now? No, I am not.

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Deadsmack #GreenShirtGuy

Ian Rapoport @RapSheet
Source: The #Lions have agreed to terms on a 2-year extension with G Joe Dahl, who is now under contract thru 2021. A former 5th rounder and key backup interior OL, he is now competing for a starting role.

Jdog Lemon Head
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Jdog Lemon Head

Never a dahl moment with the lions.

HunterCenter
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HunterCenter

they keep signing what Joe Schmoes they can