A Retirement, A Trade, and an Identity Crisis (A 2019 Colder Take)

JDOG LEMON HEAD: This is a parody of Hugo’s recent “cold take” article. Since his initial writing of the piece in 2016, the Patriots have gone to three straight Super Bowls and won two of them. Maybe this will be good luck to do an “updated” version. Note: This is written tongue-in-cheek and does not necessarily reflect how I feel.

When the Patriots sent Jacob Hollister to Seattle for a conditional 7th round pick, I was very disappointed, for reasons that I would not have been able to articulate. Having had a few hours to think about it, the Hollister trade was disappointing at several levels.

First and foremost, it was disappointing that the Patriots felt they had no choice but to be without a key cheerleader for the remainder of 2019. Second, it closed the book on a period (since 2013) in which the team turned another tight end prospect into another disappointing player, to continue their overhyped TE streak into the future.

Since the drafting of Rob Gronkowski in 2010, the Patriots tight end depth has been on the rise. This rise was attributable to two factors:

  1. Finding and developing a core of valuable talent in the 2010 draft (Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez).
  2. Continuous access to over-hyped play, from the aforementioned Hollister, to future pre-season Hall of Famer Zach Sudfeld, to BoSoxJinx hero AJ Derby.

With these ingredients added to the mix, and Gronkowski and Hernandez shifted into their best roles, the Patriots underwent a renaissance on the offensive side of the ball. They showed promise in 2010, and came into their own in 2011, playing outstanding football throughout the playoffs. And while the Patriots lost the 2011 Super Bowl, it was that season where duo became the first pair of tight ends in NFL history to catch at least five touchdowns each in consecutive seasons for the same team.

With both prime-age TEs (Gronkowski and Hernandez) eligible for free agency after the 2013 off-season – or they would have been had not both received significant contract extensions – it has been no secret that the Patriots would have to make difficult decisions, and identify a roadmap with which to sustain their offensive renaissance going forward.

After the 2012 season, the Patriots hinted at what their choice would be. In 2013, Bill Belichick released Hernandez (ahem) and signed UDFA Zach Sudfeld, a classic preseason playmaker that got hyped up. After his HOF preseason career, he was later released and signed with the Jets. PatsFootballFans bruhs were distraught that he would not live up to his hype and they would not have him to pair with Gronkowski.

In 2015, the Patriots drafted AJ Derby in the 6th round out of Arkansas and signed him to a standard four-year rookie deal, much to the delight of Jim. However, after the BoSoxJinx curse kicked in, Derby missed spring training and was subsequently placed on IR prior to the season. During the following season (2016), the Patriots traded Derby to the Broncos for a 5th round pick and the book closed on Derby’s Patriot career.

In 2017, the Patriots continued their search for another young tight end to pair with Gronkowski. They signed UDFA TE Jacob Hollister, another hyped player that Pats fans hoped would form the dynamic duo they have been searching for. Hollister garnered so much hype and we were all waiting for him to emerge as the Great White Hope. Alas, he never lived up to his hype as he was often injured.

Whether the decision to pursue tight end flexibility was a good one or a bad one, a choice or a necessity, the Patriots have taken a step back in not preparing for their TE future without Gronkowski. They did not draft a tight end in a deep 2019 draft, they signed and released Austin Seferian-Jenkins, and signed old friend Ben “Benjamin” Watson (who is suspended for the first 4 games for PEDs). But the biggest step back is trading away Hollister in 2019, a player who will be remembered as the Great White Hype.

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Anyone here ever visited Toronto? We’re headed there for 5 days, leaving on Saturday, which encompasses Canada Day on 7/1, their equivalent to our Independence Day. If anyone has good tips for hidden things to do there, let me know.

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PPB, you’re up!

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I’m sure Tishan has tons of advice, he’s our resident Torontonian.

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Indeed it would be quite interesting to get a college student’s take on what’s interesting in Toronto.

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I don’t really go out that much

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Be sure to wear Bruins gear. They’ll love it!

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Matty D – The bit Russell Peters does on this is not happening is the best one IMO

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The Saudi Arabia one? That is solid. But I discovered it through the meth pee one and it blows my mind. She seemed so normal but that was a crazy story!!

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everybody surviving the summer sports doldrums out there? hope all is well in pats nation

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I have been using the downtime to focus on work.
Just kidding, I discovered “This is Not Happening” videos on youtube and have been binge watching them.

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solid

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This Is Not Happening is great!

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I can’t really call it doldrums for myself, with all the hockey and soccer to watch.

That said, I can’t wait for foosball season to begin!

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fair enough… i just always think of the time between the end of the NHL/NBA seasons and the start of football as the doldrums… but there’s soccer, wwc, tennis, baseball, etc… going on… so its not a total barren wasteland

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The day after the MLB all-star game is the worst sports day of the year. It’s like the anti-Christmas for sports fans. But it’s also exciting because it means the best time for sports fans is right around the corner. Fall is like springtime for sports fans.

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I’m finally making the move to Windows 10 from 7.

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What’s a Windows? (typing on my Apple II E.)

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My condolences, Mattdog. I used to be similarly afflicted. Now I can’t understand why I ever thought the Apple OS was better.

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Well I share the same disdain for Apple, but then I’m in engineering and it makes no sense to work with iOS (Linux FTW). My wife is a graphics designer and she swears by Apple. I’m afraid to call her out though, her being Argentinean and all.

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Kudos to your wife for still being able to work in the field. So much of it has disappeared to India.

For whatever reason, I have five friends who are/were graphic artists, and all of them migrated from Apple to PC about a decade ago. They tell me they can do the same thing at 10% of the cost for software and hardware. Of course, only 2 of them are still working in the field at this point, so who knows.

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The backend work is cheaper offshore, the UI/UX still had a good presence Stateside. She has a selective clientele now and a lot of them are from the Asia-Pacific region. Being an engineer, I’m astounded at what people would pay for visual aesthetics.

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welcome to the future!

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Windows 10 has some weird quirks, but is definitely more robust than Windows 7. I’m on 10 at work and 7 at home. I gotta 86 the 7 soon.

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Does Microsoft still support Windows 98? I’m, uh….asking for a friend.

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Tyreek Hill meeting with the NFL tomorrow- slap on the hand coming.

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Punches to the chest would be more appropriate.

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You’re too kind.

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I think that throat punches would be more appropriate.

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Kicks to the jewels……..

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I think he’ll get 6-8 games. The NFL has screwed up domestic/family violence cases so many times that at this point they have to err on the side of more punishment every time. Nobody will complain if they go overboard, everyone will complain if they go light.

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They have dragged it so long that I think they thought the public would forget about it.

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Mike Reiss
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Patriots rookies will report to training camp on July 21, while veterans are scheduled to report on July 24, according to the NFL. That sets up Thursday, July 25 as the likely first public practice of training-camp practice.

That’s only a month away. Hold on, you truncated icosahedron-phobes!

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Nobody can get on the NBA’s level. Last finals game was June 13th, first summer league game is July 5th.

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Well, I’m pretty sure there’s a soccer game on every day somwhere.

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Then again, they probably play more MLB games in 7 months then they play soccer games all year.

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Idk if you guys are watching the WWC but this Sweden plays with more tactical awareness than most men’s teams I watch regularly. It’s been a joy to watch them this game vs Canada

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They played really well.

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Yeah their positioning and making correct reads on one touch passes to break Canada’s 3-4 player press were awesome

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Was reading the replay article that Hurley posted an hour ago –> Made me think — most fans think their team got interfered with if they don’t get a call, or that they didn’t do interfering when a call goes against them. When it comes to Patriots and any hint of a controversial call, most fans say that the Patriots were beneficiaries. It would be awesome to have a company make some type compilation of controversial calls but to make it like a video game so that you can make the teams/players anonymous/generic. Would be interesting to have fans “be… Read more »

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If OKC is interested in dumping Adams contract, that’s one thing. If they are looking for significant return it makes no sense. The market is just too deep. Even when you get past Vucevic,Horford, Cousins, Gasol (PO) there are a ton of lower cost options like Lopez, Valanciunas, Ed Davis, Kevon Looney, DeWayne Dedmon, Noah Vonleh, JaMychal Green, Kenneth Faried, Nerlens Noel, now Willie Cauley-Stein. And you could get 2 for 1. If they have intentions of moving him they better do it now because the market may be gone in a week.

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I don’t see the point in paying a premium for someone in group A when you could get Ed Davis for much less, personally. Horford and Gasol are too old. The others too limited to make a focal point.

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Of course, Ed Davis/Lopez might be much more expensive than the other names in that “tier” in practice.

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I don’t think so. I see that second “tier” more in the “room exception” to just over the full MLE ($4M-12M) depending how the market shakes out. While it’s likely the “weakest” group at the top, it’s a very deep group. I’d love to land Ed Davis but it’d require a handcuff, imo. Davis has really never been a starter and the last 3 years he has played less than 20 mins a game. He’s still highly valuable though and could probably be had at just over the MLE. A very interesting name on the list is Noah Vonleh who… Read more »

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I already hate Sweden’s coach.

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That’s not Swede of you to say that.

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There’s Norway around it.

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Denmark my words — there will be blood tonight…

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I don’t think you can fiord to be making threats.

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I guess I am on an island by myself

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Vati-Can you guys stop with these pun threads?

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Were you just Rome-ing around, waiting for your turn?

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Yes; just thought i’d let you guys Greece the wheels first, so to speak.

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Crete Scott! You’re good at these Euro puns!

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It Spains me to say this, but this has to stop!

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Quit Russian me. I’ll stop when i want to stop.

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you better czech yourself… before you wrzech yourself

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Tacko Fall sounds like a bootleg Taco Bell place

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Taco Fail is the name of my out of tune Mariachi band.

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The “Big Burrito” is 7 and a half feet.

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Holy Frijoles, that’s tall!!!

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SPAIN got robbed
flopping wins championship
this is why soccer should stay overseas

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There’s no flopping overseas?

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Sure yeah basketball should be banned too.

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I’d almost agree, but Spain was flopping a bit as well, and it’s not like they had a whole lot of quality shots on goal. Overall, it wasn’t really a win to be proud of. Kind of a bunch of meh.

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Worthy of a slow golf clap?

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I’m thinking a standard paced golf clap.

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There’s going to be a lot of extra time in this one.

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The rare triple flop!

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Is this like the Hingle McCringleberry triple pump?

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Exactly like that.

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It was Neymaresque. Ranked 7 in the Neymar scale.

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USA 2 ESP 1

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PK- USA!!

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I guess the flopping will pay off.

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ESP player looked to get her foot in the air.

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I don’t think she went down, until she realized the ball was past her. The contact didn’t make her drop. I guess the contact is the rule though.

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Is this an innuendo?

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It is now.

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That’s what Westy says…

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I think you mean fapping.

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I should ask Cali what that means…

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No- you shouldn’t.

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I think they’re going to need to put Llyod in soon- need a bigger body in the middle.

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Rapinoe just ran into defenders (twice) and fell over. Good officiating. Maybe she needs to change up her approach.

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Something has been off with her- and now she gets a yellow.

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that corner defender has pushed her off the ball twice with a shove to the shoulder, I guess she thought a little slap wouldn’t get called either.

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Wrong.

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Training camp cannot start soon enough.

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This beats mowing my lawn.

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I’d rather mow my lawn than watch soccer. I wouldn’t rather mow yours though.

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USA 1 ESP 0!!

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Not so fast there…

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Pat’s Pulpit with another roster projection and have only 5 receivers including Slater, until Gordon returns the only sure thing is Edelman, I rather go with 6 including Slater, lot depends on Harry development and hope Doresett or Maurice can become become a major contributor.

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Maybe Imman steps up in training camp but the reports so far seem to have him behind Jules Dorsett Harry and Maurice

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I agree with the Pulpit. I’d go heavier at other skill positions this season.

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No position has so much doubt as the receivers group heading to camp, Tight ends are doing nothing if our receiving group is depending on only Jules.

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Edelman, Dorsett, Harris, Harry… I think they can work with that, given how good their rushing attack should be. Need the TEs to be able to block, to help the OL, especially on the left side… that is as important this season as the TEs catching passes, IMO.

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I don’t think the question of whether we should carry more TE or WR is an abstract one like this.
We need to find skill players worth rostering period. If the roster ends up WR or TE heavy, then you adapt from there.

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Just read Curran’s article on the possibility of trading Caserio to the Texans. If BB plans on coaching another 5+ years (i.e. Caserio probably wouldn’t want to wait that long to be a GM, now that the cat is out of the bag) and if the Texans would part with a first round draft pick (they probably would not), then I would trade Caserio. Better to get something now for him than nothing later, just like with players.

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I’d assume the Pats want to trade Caserio to the Texans. Which is why they’re playing hardball about the tampering stuff instead of just letting him go.

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There is no franchise tag for GMs. If the Texans wait until after the 2020 draft, they can have Casserio for no compensation. So if they want him now, the question is how much are they willing to give up for the next 9 months of his services? Not much, I’d think.

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although they are stuck right now without a GM, so perhaps they are scrambling more than we think to find a solution. Or maybe they are fine with things as they are for the next 9 months. Who knows. I’m just saying if I’m the Pats, I’m willing to trade him at this point.

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Well, if the compensation is minimal, just having him around for the next 9 months isn’t worth it. He is on the field during training camp, he’s a coach/GM hybrid. Given the thinness of the current coaching staff, he’s valuable.

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@NFL_DovKleiman Random Highlight of the Day: @AtlantaFalcons star WR @juliojones_11 made what is possibly the most ridiculous Superbowl catch in history that been forgotten.
What about the Jermaine Kearse catch?

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Julio’s was all skill though. Kearse’s was probably more ridiculous in total, but the luck was the ridiculous part.

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hello

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Afternoon!

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Brazil’s back up against the wall now.

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They’re cooked.

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Yup.

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France looks tired.

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A few lazy long shots, reminded me of NBA tired three point lob instead of putting the effort into a play.

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The magic spray bottle is out! … and a full recovery!

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I need to get some of that stuff. FIFA probably buys it from the TB12 Center

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France getting sloppy with their passes.

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I always wondered what the “Kun” in Aguero’s name was. It doesn’t sound Spanish. Wikipedia has the answer: “He wears “Kun” on his shirt, a childhood nickname based on the title character from the cartoon Kum-Kum.” No idea what that is but mystery solved. And Argentina goes up 2-0 on Qatar.

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Argentina still plays like crap, my wife was about to explode lol. If they do end up making the finals which I strongly doubt, we are going to the Maracaña.

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Yeah, I don’t understand with the talent they have why they don’t play better. Also, why is Dybala not in the starting lineup? He’s one of their best players.

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Their issue is 1. Lack of leadership 2. Players playing selfish. Coaching is horrible because who in their right mind would want to be employed by AFA.

Dybala is not in the lineup because he plays in the same position as Messi. Their issue is la k of creativity in the midfield and piss poor defense.

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I mean they seemed to play a lot better when he came on in the second half and he played alongside Messi. But maybe there’s not enough defensive cover with those two on the field. I notice that when the other team has the ball, Messi gives absolutely no effort to win the ball back. Pretty much just walks around and waits for the other players to win it back.

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Messi has always played that way, he plays a true enganche waiting for the DM to make the pivot plays. The issue is the last time Argentina had a phenomenal DM was Mascherano in 2014 WC. Paredes can get there eventually but the team management is so inconsistent that it’s tough to get any sense if continuity. Another reason you see Messi walking a lot is that he conserves his energy for the burst plays which come out of nowhere. He never comes off a game either so he saves up the effort to enable the attack. Dybala looked successful… Read more »

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Damn, that’s some good analysis. Makes complete sense.

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I played for 23 years as a CB/DM pivot so enjoy the game. I just don’t talk much about it here unless someone brings it up, since soccer is not really everyone’s cuppa coffee.

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A whole lot of flopping and begging in the France/Brasil match.

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Yup- Brazil seems to be leading in the complaint department.

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Soccer is a sport for 365 days per year

PS: I really miss the NFL season

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Sunday’s are just not the same 🙁

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I fully agree Cali.

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This France/Brazil match is getting quite chippy.

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Argentina with 1-0 lead against Qatar in Copa America

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France just scored- Brazil is not going to be happy.

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Algeria and Kenya tied 0-0 at African Cup Nations

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Did I see correctly that the Red Sox and Yankees are playing in London? Why?

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Money. International branding. I won’t be tuning in to help with the TV advertising portion at least. Don’t want to encourage this idiocy.

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Do they even have baseball fields in London?

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Cricket fields most likely

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Very happy. The opposition candidate won again in today’s re-election in Istanbul. The 3 major cities in Turkey are now in opposition (secular party) hands. Beginning of the end for Erdogan? Too early to say but I hope so.

Carry on 🙂

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Maybe Enes Kanter will finally be able to play in Canada.

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I hate Enes Kanter. The people he’s affiliated with are worse than the government.

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Even so, it is wrong to want to extradite him or even to ban Blazers games in Turkey.
I’m not saying i agree with what Kanter says or thinks, but i have no knowledge that he was involved in any criminal activity worth of prison.
I always defend democracy, freedom of speech, secular government and liberal values.

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Eh, he’s openly in affiliation with a religious cult leader who has done a lot of bad in the country so I feel 0 sympathy for Kanter. They were best buddies with Erdogan till 2012

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Happy for your people Memo!

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Michael Giardi @MikeGiardi 23m
Multiple sources say that Sony Michel is progressing quickly since his most recent arthroscopic knee surgery and has been running full tilt. The 2nd year RB has also been spending considerable time at @TB12sports like so many before – and after – have/will. #Patriots

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Hopefully his career doesn’t mirror Mitchell’s. Fingers crossed….

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My guess is the Pats will heavily monitor his snap count during the season, especially if Harris can play well. Then when the postseason comes, he’ll be unleashed.

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Wonderful use of a 1st round pick.

Also, if Harris plays well, why would you have to unleash Michel in the playoffs? Just keep using the guy that you used all year long.

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Nice match.

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Wonderful match!!

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Long!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Who scored the 5th? Had to take a bathroom break.

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Pulisic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Zardas again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Zardas!!!!!!

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The NFL will turn 100 years old this season. Tom Brady has been the Patriots’ starting QB for 20% of the NFL’s existence.

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DINGOAL!!!! USA!!!!!!

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Long!!

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Good match between Norway and Australia.

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Que goleada.

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Let’s see how they perform in the next stage

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Venezuela classified as well

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3-1 win over Bolivia

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5-0

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Peru in 3. 🙂

Deadsmack #EverythingWeGot
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Tishan would say Peru in 6 🙂

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I didn’t know that Dani Alves was still playing

Deadsmack #EverythingWeGot
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He is still one of the best right defenders in the world (although he plays almost like a wing player).
He was at PSG this season.

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I’ve been on the road most of this year Smack, I haven’t seen many games. I knew he still played pro I didn’t know he still started for Brazil. He is very good, I agree. Brazillian fullbacks are always a joy to watch. Very versatile players

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Yeah, I didn’t know where he was either. He plays at PSG, the black hole of the soccer world. Who even watches French football? 🙂

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French people 🙂

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When Brazil can string passes like that together in sequence, you’re done. Can’t let them build up steam like that.