Cap Scratch Fever: Setting the Table

-by Mr. Scratch

It was a wonderful run for the 2018 Patriots, who defeated three of the four teams with the best records in the league to take home their sixth Super Bowl title. It was also a relief that New England was able to accomplish that feat considering that they had been left for dead numerous times throughout the year. After a Steelers loss in Pittsburgh following the “Meltdown in Miami,” things weren’t looking great, but New England managed to wriggle into a first round bye (partially due to the luck of the #2 team in conference being a wild card). They came to the table in January with what the other teams lacked: experience.

However, despite the incredible play of the team in the playoffs, the criticisms and cracks seen throughout the season are in fact very real. As Tom Brady enters the final year of his contract with a very loose and undefinable idea of how much longer he actually can (or will want to) keep going, the Patriots face the unknown moving forward. At this point, we are very much on borrowed time.

There is age and decline on this roster that was evident throughout the season and New England faces a tight salary cap situation as the team projects to only have roughly $18M in cap space heading into the off-season. Additionally, New England has 16 unrestricted free agents heading into the off-season. And while that number may be a bit artificially overblown on players that aren’t very valuable, many of the players heading out there were starters or key contributors.

With that mind, let’s take a look at how the team lines up heading into the 2019 season. For the purposes of brevity and clarity I have only included players who were on the 53-man roster at some point or were 2018 draft picks and are currently under contract.

QB (3)- Tom Brady, Brian Hoyer, Danny Etling
RB (4)- Sony Michel, Rex Burkhead, James White, James Develin
WR (4)- Julian Edelman, Matthew Slater, Damoun Patterson, Braxton Berrios
TE (5)- Rob Gronkowski, Dwayne Allen, Jacob Hollister, Ryan Izzo, Stephen Anderson
OL (9)- Isaiah Wynn, Marcus Cannon, David Andrews, Joe Thuney, Shaq Mason, Ted Karras, Cole Croston, Brian Schwenke, James Ferentz

DE (4)- Adrian Clayborn, Deatrich Wise Jr., Derek Rivers, Keionta Davis
DT (3)- Lawrence Guy, Adam Butler, Ufomba Kamalu
LB (6)- Dont’a Hightower, Kyle Van Noy, Elandon Roberts, Ja’Whaun Bentley, Christian Sam, Brandon King
CB (4)- Stephon Gilmore, J.C. Jackson, Keion Crossen, Duke Dawson
S (5)- Devin McCourty, Patrick Chung, Duron Harmon, Nate Ebner, Obi Melifonwu
LS (1)- Joe Cardona

As we can see, New England already has 48 players under contract for next year who either contributed this season or were “stashed” for this upcoming season. That number balloons to 50 when we add in de facto spots for the kicker and punter.

There will be cap cuts. And some of these positions will have two or three players who will be fighting for maybe one spot. But while the roster is certainly not a finished product, it has the foundation necessary in place.

The Patriots will also have 12 selections in this year draft including six in the first three rounds. While four of those selections do fall in the seventh round, and factoring for moving around or even out of picks, there’s still a very good chance New England lands five or more first-year contributors. So it’s still easy to see the Patriots not really having that many holes to fill, say between six and eight, when all is said and done. At the same time, some of those could prove to be very important and pricey holes.

That leads us back to that cap situation. With only approximately $18M in space and two of the league’s top free agents (Trey Flowers and Trent Brown), things will be tight. But New England does have ways to create flexibility.

The easiest answer to cap relief could be an extension for Tom Brady. If New England added three years to his contract and converted his $14M salary to bonus, they could free $10.5M this year.

However, with the uncertainty around Brady’s future, this may not make this the best way to go. If Brady were to struggle further next year and the Patriots were to lose in the first round of the playoffs, it wouldn’t be surprising to see him hang them up. Conversely, if he has another solid season and the Patriots win another Super Bowl, it wouldn’t be surprising to see him ride off into the sunset. In either case, that same $10.5M saved would become immediate dead cap going forward and now with a big hole at QB. Not to mention any bonus added to entice that extension (which would also partially eat into cap savings) would be lost as well.

By simply releasing Dwayne Allen and Adrian Clayborn alone, the Patriots save over $11M in cap. However, there may be harder decisions to make after that, most notably with Rob Gronkowski ($12M) and Dont’a Hightower ($10.9M), depending on how New England targets existing or outside free agents.

Meanwhile, in addition to Brady turning 42:

  • Matthew Slater and Brian Hoyer will be 34;
  • Julian Edelman will be 33;
  • Devin McCourty and Patrick Chung will be 32;
  • Adrian Clayborn, Marcus Cannon, Nate Ebner and James Develin will be 31;
  • Rob Gronkowski will be 30;
  • Rex Burkhead, Lawrence Guy, Stephon Gilmore and Dont’a Hightower will be 29.

Oh… and of those free agents mentioned earlier? Nine of them are 28 or older.

The Patriots were tied this season for the third-oldest roster in the league.

So in both the draft and free agency, the Patriots will not only need to have an eye on managing larger contracts and filling thin positions but also an eye on adding younger and prime age players, both to immediately replace and fill in behind aging starters at key positions.

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“Patriots and Dorsett both interested in having him come back.”

No, the Patriots don’t actually play him, but they like having him around.

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Have a NEW POST
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Will this scandal keep Kraft out of the HOF??

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Gosh..I heard about the breaking news…or was it busting?

I’ll see myself out.

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We’ll give you a hand…

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You’re one tug away from getting kicked out of here.

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We have Spygate and Deflategate. This scandal will now be know as Ejacugate

Neil X
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No, it’s Fornigate.

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That works too!

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You see the tweet from Martellus Bennett? Too funny.

Martellus Bennett @MartysaurusRex 4s
Pussy in Jupiter must be out of this world.

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The thing about Jupiter: it rhymes with stupider.

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And there is is. lol

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Not bad either 🙂

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Well, if there is any upside to Kraft’s Jupiter Adventure, it’s knowing that someone nearly 25 years older than me can still enjoy sex. The future is bright!

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With Kraft connections with women players might except less money to play here. lol

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Man, dp has the quips and jokes popping out every where today.

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It’s been pent -up for years. lol

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Breaking News.

President Donald Trump has pardoned Robert Kraft.

Gisele Bündchen won’t let Tom Brady go out with Robert Kraft anymore.

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Someone please remind me, who did the Pats trade to the Bears to get the second round pick (#56)?

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It was part of an exchange of picks last year

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Oh so it’s like we gave them a 3rd last year for a 2nd this year?

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Gave a 2nd last year for a 4th last year and a 2nd this year

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The Patriots traded their 2018 2nd round pick #51.

The Patriots got back a 2018 4th round pick #105 overall and a 2nd round 2019 pick.

https://www.sbnation.com/2018/4/28/17296080/new-england-patriots-draft-trades-nfl-2018-bill-belichick

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Whoa, that’s going to take a while to assimilate!! Thanks Pi-man.

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Resistance is futile!

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Now…if they could turn those 4 7th rounders into a first.. 🙂

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BB will wave his magic wand and do it.

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There’s an 85 year old dude (born 1935) of the 25 names released by police for solicitation charges. Kraft is the 3rd oldest. Horny old dudes in FL.

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They aren’t limited to “in Florida.”

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Not limited to, but there sure are a whole hell of a lot of them in Florida.

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I know a whole lot of old men, who become oblivious to anything but their own concerns.

Neil X
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Old women too, though not usually sex related. My mother’s dementia got so bad that she didn’t want to spend time with her great grandchildren because they annoyed her.

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Florida Man!

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This one is for Robert Kraft.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Ew-768xmk

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Chris Cillizza @CillizzaCNN
“Well it’s very sad, I was very surprised to see it. He’s proclaimed his innocence totally, but I’m very surprised to see it.” — Donald Trump on Robert Kraft

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Jerry Jones has put in a request with the league to room with Robert Kraft for the owner meetings 🙂

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They can talk about how great the glory hole is.

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You better plug that hole in your basement. They may come after you. Boyce isn’t staying on his own free will

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Well, he’s still in stasis, so he ain’t talkin’ to nobody.

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It’s all about the quip.

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I needed to get my turn. lol

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TWSS

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TOO SOON!!!!

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TWSS

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You guys are cracking me up today.

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These teams never support the local economy. What’s wrong with Boston’s whores?

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can we stop comparing this to deflategate and spygate? They aren’t relatable..

Technically it’s a bit of both, someone did catch him deflating his balls with a camera, so….

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And don’t forgot about the Dorito Dink

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Do you think this story gets a happy ending JDog? I don’t think so.

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Martellus Bennett @MartysaurusRex 4s
Pussy in Jupiter must be out of this world.
(Joke of the day contest is over. Go home.)

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Martellus Bennett @MartysaurusRex 22s
Ok I’m done. I couldn’t help myself.

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Robert “Hung like Horse ” Kraft 🙂

I had to make at least one joke.

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It’s all about the e”Quip”ment

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Jesus effing Christ can’t we have one season without a scandal?!!!

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Apparently not 🙁

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He’s a dam billionaire go to NV to get your damn rocks off. Geez.

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Or stay in Boston- the cops would have looked the other way.

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Maybe he got tired of the Boston scene…

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The newer Patriots fans though this was easy.

After the Patriot s first Super Bowl appearance the cocaine scandal happened.

Also, the Irving Fryer getting cut with a knife by his wife happened.

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Is Kraft been charged for going to a massage parlor, was the Parlor legal, if so what’s the crime? Isn’t prostitution legal?

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I think it’s only legal in Vegas

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and Netherlands 🙂

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I meant in the US. Is anything in illegal in the netherlands?

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its NOT legal in vegas.. there are a few brothels outside of the city where it is legal.. but you will still get arrested if caught soliciting sex in Vegas

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My bad…I’m no expert 🙂

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they emphasize it at the hotels, tell you to avoid calling all those numbers on the little escort cards being handed out on the strip. Mostly because it’s a bait-and-switch with someone who will rob you.

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How many times have you gotten robbed?

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never.. I also have never tried to hire a lady of the evening, so you know… there’s probably a correlation there.

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NO, it’s legal in Nevada but totally illegal in large cities like Vegas.

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its legal with nonfat massage oil

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Is that like coconut oil or palm oil?

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Nate- they have him on video tape ” in the act”.

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Legalize sex workers, ban sex slavery and arrest (for a long time) people involved in the human trafficking business (not just sex slaves).

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you do realize human trafficking is ALREADY BANNED.. right?

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and it already surpassed the drug business among the illegal businesses. Even drug cartels are making money with human trafficking than drug business

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I agree with legalizing sex workers BUT apparently many prominent studies show that it actually increases sex slavery/trafficking..

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can we stop comparing this to deflategate and spygate? They aren’t relatable..

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That’s like comparing prostitution clients with human traffickers

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It’s official.. deadsmack is going full retard again.

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Is Kraft responsible for the girls being sex slaves, does he profit from it?

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If he received sexual acts from one of them, and then paid for it, then yes he owns some of that responsibility.

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How?

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by giving them money and enabling the business of sex trafficking.. which is about making money..

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Right. Smack, if you have a daughter and she gets kidnapped and forced into this, are you also not angry at the guys who solicit?

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I would be hungry with the people that kidnapped her and made her a money object, more than anything else

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But does he know that the girls were sex slaves? That’s the important question

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who is the other big name?

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Kraft should have visited the Bunny Ranch or Playboy Mansion 🙂

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The Bunny Ranch has been closed for a decade.

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Still a famous place on the planet 🙂

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Busted!

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Dale Arnold on WEEI quoted a Florida County Sheriff as saying that the girls lived in the building and had “No days off”.

I almost hit something on the highway.

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Well son of a b*tch.

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I human trafficking aspevt of this in no joke.

I just don’t think Robert Kraft know anything about that aspect of this.

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that’s my view also

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“New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft is being charged with misdemeanor solicitation of prostitution after he was twice videotaped paying for a sex act at an illicit massage parlor, police in Florida said Friday.” – That’s what he has been charged

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I heard Matt Light just retired?

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That’s fake news

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i don’t see any charge related to human trafficking

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Are people who protest and block freeways considered human traffickers?

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The yellow vests protesters 🙂

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No, but his name and face will be plastered to news stories about it.

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Like the Deflategate nonsense

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this is not like deflatgate.. this is about women who were forced to stay in a building and have sex with people for money.. NOT AT ALL LIKE FUCKING DEFLATEGATE

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Was Kraft aware of the human traficking at that place? That’s the real question.

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He choose to look the other way. As Hugo said, I’m sure the signs were there.

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Yeah.. he knew better… shmuck

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Yup. Unless he is extraordinarily naive.

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which… for an 80-something year old man, isn’t completely unreasonable to think. He has been kinda losing it over the past few years.

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He’s 77.

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Doug Kyed

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Get ready for me to mock Andy Isabella and David Sills to the Patriots a bunch with those third and fourth round picks.

Also, this gives the Patriots plenty of capital to trade for veteran players or up on in the draft.

It’s happening.

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Andrew Callahan @_AndrewCallahan
The #Patriots now have a dozen 2019 draft picks, including 7 in the first 4 rounds.

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wow.. TWO third round compensatory picks? That’s a first I think!

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No its two thirds! (haha….ha…)

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Have the Pats ever been award two 3rd round picks?

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I don’t know if they have but I’m pretty sure it’s happened before.

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Pats got four compensatory picks: two 3rds, a 6th, a 7th

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#97 (second comp pick overall), #101, #205 (first comp pick of the round), #252 (the antepenultimate selection)

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bonus points for “antepenultimate”

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That’s the news i really care

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Was hoping the 6th would have been a 5th.

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Same. The 6th was the first pick of the round.

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Since i’m a liberal that defends prostitution liberalization, i really don’t care. What’s the “real” difference between porn and prostitution? HIPOCRISY

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Human Trafficking?

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Liberalizing prostitution helps to fight that

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Right but thats a different discussion.

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Exactly. This is what happened. Kraft was caught at a place that trafficked humans. This is no bueno,.

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You don’t condone human trafficking. I think that’s where people are getting confused here.

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Participation versus observation

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(Yes, the sex trafficking is the most important and frightening issue. I was snarking.)

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True, but prostitution is not equal to human traficking and there are also a lot of forms of trafficking, other than prostitution.

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Well, the difference is between someone who willingly sells their body for sex and those who are forced into it.

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many prostitutes are not forced.
Human traficcking that’s what should be banned, not only for sex.

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Of course I agree but we’re not having a debate about policy right now. We’re dealing with a guy who got caught at a place where humans are trafficked.

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I realize that (not from personal experience of course). It’s just very unfortunate that Kraft decided to frequent an establishment that consisted of those who were forced into sex slavery.

And the most unfortunate thing of all is that these places exist.

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And Bob Kraft is a dude who backdoor strongarmed his way into owning an NFL team over 8 years or so of calculated business dealings. I have a hard time buying the idea that he wouldn’t know the Chinese girl in a seedy massage parlor who doesn’t speak English isn’t there because she wants to be.

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TMZ just released the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5JM49uSXH4

🙂

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I am NOT clicking that

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Do it!

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@MikeGiardi According to Palm Beach County state’s attorney’s office spokesman, the charges against Robert Kraft are “secondary misdemeanors.” Arrest warrant expcted to be issued Monday. It’s a “capius” warrant – a low level warrant for misdemeanors of this type. Won’t be public record.
Capius warrant but no Amicus briefs

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If nothing else, being a Pats fan is a primer in legal jargon

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The drugs Irsay had when arrested in 2014 constituted felonies btw. In case anyone is comparing.

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This is the NFL we’re talking about. Demeaning women doesn’t tarnish the shield nearly as much as deflating footballs. He’ll get fined $250K and that’ll be the end of it.

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Kraft thought the Jupiter Massage Parlor had a Friendly’s inside — dude just wanted Happy Ending.

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His timing blows.

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Just don’t stroke his ego.

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Sucks he got caught

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Eh, he’ll get off OK I think..

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But what are we to do about human trafficking? There’s the rub. It just tugs at your heart.

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*sigh* don’t we all….

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WEIGH IN:

More costly fellatio: Bill Clinton vs. Robert Kraft

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they both blew it

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Reminds me of an old Mad TV sketch.
“Here is the brief Mr. President.”
“Thanks ma’am, and here are your briefs!”

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The Tug Rule is pretty good too

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@MikeGarafolo Palm Beach County state attorney’s office tells our news desk the warrant for Robert Kraft is expected to be issued on Monday. Secondary misdemeanor charges, maximum penalty of up to 60 days in jail per charge.
Secondary misdemeanor charges, max 60 days in jail, not so bad

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that’d be bargained down to community service anyway…

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doesn’t sound like he’s going to plea bargain.. He’s going to fight it with high priced defense attorneys.. I am guessing the charges will be dropped and it won’t go to trial.

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A warrant? Really?

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Bring.. you seem to be confused on how the criminal justice system works.

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Maybe

Is the ticket the cop writes me for speeding, a warrant?

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no.. its a civil offense… kraft is being charged with two criminal offenses– hence the arrest

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So he won’t see jail, likely, just serve as the public face of how human trafficking happens for a bit. Since he is denying, it sounds like it’ll go to the courts and won’t die soon.

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well, he’s going to be arrested, processed, and potentially arraigned in court. So he will see jail, even if for just a short bit.

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Sorry, yes, Blighty you’re right. I meant as a sentence.

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Wait, because he’s white and rich this is suddenly the worst crime ever?? What about the players who do this literally every week all over the NFL? I’m not saying it’s right – at all! But 1000s of strip clubs and escorts are in business every day in this country. The sudden outrage to make this a race or class issue is absurd. So typical. The SB is the #1 trafficking event in the US. It’s atrocious. But, the Feds finally run a sting to try to curtail some of it, and Kraft is the first & only name mentioned.… Read more »

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come on now… he wasn’t the only name mentioned… Billy Bob Stephens, 47, of DelRay Beach was also implicated… he allegedly entered the premises multiple times as well

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Football-wise, an important note from the Irsay case: NFL commissioner Roger Goodell did not issue further punishments — i.e. the forfeiture of draft picks — because Irsay’s actions did not have a “competitive consequence.”

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but his balls got deflated 🙂

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but not taking away anything from the pats is a competitive consequence for the whole league… so… loss of 1st round pick and tom brady suspended 4 games

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About a month ago, a girl got kidnapped at Hennessey’s next to Fanueil hall. The police did find her two days later. But it was a reminder – you’re never totally insulated from human trafficking. Hopefully this whole thing at least draws attention to the existence of the problem.

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not related at all

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Maybe Kraft IS the fall guy. He didn’t want the other owners to get busted too!

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Good ol Bobby, looking out for the betterment of the league again!

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He and Jeff Saturday went into a room and came out with a CBA

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Not sure how the league could justify taking away all the picks. If anything, they could just force Kraft to sell the team, similar to how the NBA forced that one owner to sell. But if there was not a “team” punishment for Irsay…but then again, Good Ol Rog doesn’t use common sense or care about precedence

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They can’t force him to sell the team – good grief

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Didn’t the NBA force that one owner to sell? If it could happen to the NBA, why not the NFL? Good grief indeed

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The white supremicist? Yeah, it’s the same thing

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Donald Sterling.

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At worst, RK is forced to step down permanently and then Jonathan takes over.

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100% agree but I don’t think the league will do the forcing. If they really do have video of him in the act, I think Jonathan has a come-to-Jesus meeting with his dad and makes him see that the org he built needs him to be gone to move forward.

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Robert Kraft is a lot bigger than the New England Patriots.

The team is probably the last thing on his mind right now

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Nice headlines no story.

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I believe they are using Krafts name to bring light to the disgusting world of sex trafficking. It sucks his name is gonna get dragged through the mud (though he brought it on himself) but these stories don’t get enough attention without high profile people being affiliated.

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In other news, the Revolution beat the Greenville Triumph 4-1 in preseason action. Are your ready for some MLS futbol?!

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Kraft penalty, take away the Revs from him
zero championships

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I can’t stand watching the Revs… it’s so uninspired.

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They’re busting R. Kelly too!

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What has this world come to?

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well he pees on people

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He thought they were stung by jellyfish.

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Quite heroic when you put it that way

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I anticipate the charges will be dropped…

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too late to pay off the cops

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It’s not worth the prosecutor’s effort to go after Kraft with his billion dollar defense team. They’re going to drop the charges.

Unfortunately they will go after the people without money for a decent defense, and scare them into plea deals.

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It’s the top story on ESPN, FOX News, CNN…all of them. He just became “the face of the problem”. I can’t see law enforcement–if they have any case at all–now saying “screw it, turn him loose.” Again, not saying Kraft is guilty. Just that the cat is now out of the bag and the optics would look awful if the DA lets the highest profile John walk.

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It’s a freaking misdemeanor – turn him loose? Are you expecting him to go to jail or something?

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it’s punishable by up to one year in prison– since he is facing two charges.

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No chance in hell, and yes I saw you said charges will be dropped – not sure I agree – probably a hefty fine or even bigger donation to some charity that helps women

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Yep the more I read, this story is just getting started. This is the culmination of an international effort 8 months in the making. This is law enforcement’s spotlight on human trafficking. They’ve got the national spotlight now. Not fully prosecuting Kraft–the only john so far identified as having multiple counts–would be a black eye. Only way they loosen on him is if there truly are bigger names.

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A speeding ticket is also a misdemeanor – if you don’t ever pay it, yes, there is a chance you could go to jail. Let’s not blow this out of proportion.

This is embarrassing for Kraft, no doubt about it, but for the rest of us, it’s kind of funny (taking out the slavery part – if that’s true, then whoever is running it should rot in jail).

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Your ignorance of the law is vast. Speeding tickets are civil offenses, they are not crimes. Misdemeanors are crimes.

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the punishment from the NFL will be the story
too bad mainstream media will turn this political

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Yes, the NFL is separate

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“Yes, the pussy is out of the bag, too.”
– Clark

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THIS IS HALIRIOUS, HE DON’T OWN THE JOINT, WENT THERE FOR SERVICES AND IS ONLY INVOLVED CUS POLICE WERE INVESTIGATING SOMETHING THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM.
I THINK IF THE POLICE WERE NOT INVESTIGATING HIM AND THIS LEAKED FROM THEM KRAFT CAN SUE THEIR ASSES, I WILL WAIT FOR DETAILS BEFORE JUMPING TO CONCLUSIONS ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE TERMING SOLICITATION.

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what?

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I’ll call cryptology.

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He’s getting angry about the whole making soup with broth debate.

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Apparently, Bart Scott thought I was being serious….

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“I would take their whole draft from them. it has to be something that cripples them. This is a black eye.” – Bart Scott on the punishment Robert Kraft and The #Patriots should get from the league after today’s news.

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Flummery.

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I see his draft revocation and raise him a vacated Super bowl title

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They should also shut down the City of Foxborough because they were probably generally aware of these shenanigans

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New England will also be banished from the US and be it’s own country. Similar to how England shipped criminals to Australia, New England will be the Cheaters the US shipped off.

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Just as long as we can opt not to have significant sections of CT and VT as part of our new country.

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Yes, misdemeanors like this should be punished much more severely than felonies such as beating women

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Not so breaking news: Bart Scott makes a fool of himself