Y Factors 2017: Patriots vs. Dolphins

-by DNOMN8R314

Let’s get right into the article, shall we?

All this happened, Moore or less: Jay Cutler’s concussion means that Miami backup Matt Moore will be helming the Dolphins offense. While Moore is not by any means a franchise option, he has put up capable statistics against New England in recent years, although the Patriots have won each time. The secondary will have to prepare for a more familiar, less interception-friendly offense centered around the receiving trio of Jarvis Landry, Kenny Stills, and DeVante Parker. While the defense has cut down on points allowed, they are still giving up plenty of yards, so Sunday’s match-up could be a bit of a test for them.

Though my sprint is more a Waddle: As pointed out by PatsPulpit’s Rich Hill, Patriots backup right tackle LaAdrian Waddle has had to protect Tom Brady from top-tier pass rushers J.J. Watt, Joey Bosa, Von Miller, and Khalil Mack thus far through the 2017 season, and now gets to face Cameron Wake, still a dominant defensive end in his ninth season. Waddle has often received help on his snaps but has excellently held his own and kept Brady upright. He and the rest of the offensive line will have to continue to put forth strong performances to keep the offense flowing.

Contain excitement: Part of the reasoning for the roster swap of Eric Lee for Cassius Marsh was Marsh’s repeated inability to contain running backs. The Patriots’ defense, lacking strong pass rush, relies on solid run containment from their defensive ends to force opposing offenses to become one-dimensional, and the 260-pound Lee will hopefully be able to remedy some of the lack of containment which has been seen this season. Of course, the first-week Patriot Lee may not be active at all, in which case it may be up to linebackers (Kyle Van Noy, Trevor Reilly) and defensive tackles (Adam Butler) playing on the edge to keep any Miami running attack from developing.

Time for the BSJ TUMS-O-METER prediction for this week’s game. Considerations: 1) The Pats will be without two starting offensive linemen (Marcus Cannon and David Andrews) while Chris Hogan remains out. 2) Teams that are 8-2 (PIT) or 7-3 (JAX) both have winnable games as do TEN and KC (both 6-4), thus there is a bit of pressure to stay ahead of the curve for playoff positioning. 3) On the other hand, MIA is a hot mess right now, though with Moore starting at QB they could be a little bit more of a challenge. Nonetheless, this should be only a 1 bottle TUMS game, 1 1/2 at best.

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He seems to forget that he was 1 for 5 in the same scenario during that season. Plus the Patriots were in a run defense that gave them more run defenders than Seattle had blockers.

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Dammit, Boney! Why you gotta delete your post? 🙂

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Ah. That’s too bad.

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Same for Brady (although he does have FB as well)

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Submitted the Ring Envy post for ez. Hopefully it comes before the other good articles. Also, Dnom, please check your email. It’s a good one 🙂

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Nicholas Grigsby, wasn’t he a character in a Dickens novel? 🙂

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That’s right Guvnah!

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Nicholas Grigsby picks up the rice
In the church where a wedding has been
Ah, look at all the lonely people

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To the point below about BB’s record in the first two years with the Pats: don’t forget that Kraft moved Heaven and Earth to get BB here. Traded a 1st round pick for crying out loud. And Kraft knew him from when he was an assistant under Parcells. Coaches are rarely if ever brought in under these circumstances, so it makes sense that he had far more rope than other guys.

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And it only took 2 years to win a SB so the point is moot.

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No sports on tonight. How will we entertain ourselves!?

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Hallmark Channel.

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No cable.

…and “BOOOOO!!!!”

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Jim will be watching 🙂

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I’m guessing he watches things that are easy on the heart so that he can get through Pats games on Sundays with only minor tums-related issues.

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No- his wife tells him what to watch 🙂

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And what’s your excuse?

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MLS Playoffs

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1) There are no playoff games tonight, unless ESPN is wrong (NEVER!)
2) I don’t enjoy amateur soccer.

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College hoops

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I think I’ll settle for drinking wine and watching netflix.

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Talib/Crabtree suspensions reduced to 1 game———————->

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When Jimmy Haslam gets thrown into the klink, who will buy the Browns?

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Jim Brown and Drew Carey.

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Lebron

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If you have some extra cash burning a hole in your pocket, that’s a good team to buy. Bargain basement price, loyal fanbase, nowhere to go but up.

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Donald Trump.

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Apparently sir tweet a lot is not a fan of the NFL

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or losers.

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Ok- Jon Bon Jovi.

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He would be interested I’m sure

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Rhymes with Pay-a-Ton Money-ing

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OK, I’m happy for Jimmy, but scared for him, too. His value will likely never be higher than it is right now. If he gets hurt, it will cost him millions upon millions. Risky for both the Niners and Jimmy. I hope it works out for both.

Good night, you shiny object chasers!!!

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Night Dino- did you find a name for the cat??

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Blackfeet, aka Custer (sounds like the 7th cavalry when he charges down the hallway), aka Daddy Long Legs, aka whatever comes to mind!

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Sounds like Cuddles would be a good name 🙂

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I have little doubt Jimmy will succeed. Bill loved him. I truly believe Shanahan is a brilliant offensive coach. I think they’ll be successful. Maybe not right away but just in case, I’ve put in a waiver claim for Marquise Goodwin.

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Should I make a ring envy for ez and his giants?

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Do it.

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Justin Tuck

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I’m honestly at a lost for words. As a person that has seen Eli the QB but also Eli the Man, I’m truly pissed about what has taking place today. This decision is one of the STUPIDEST I’ve seen in my time being asap with pro sports

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I still don’t get why they didn’t trade Eli to JAX before the trade deadline.

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I thought that Eli had a no-trade contract.

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He can over rule it- if they had told him that they were sitting him and that they wanted to trade him- he could have waived the clause.

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Maybe they had already asked him. Of course, this could just be the Gmen panicking.

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BB was 5-11 his first year here . He was 5-5 in his 2nd here after 10 games. What if the next 6 games didn’t go the way that we all know that they did. What if he lost those last 6 games. Should the Patriots have fired him?

I know that this is a big what if but to me successful franchises don’t change their coaches every 2 years.

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The Maras have to start over; new GM, new HC. Too much prestige and pressure in NYC to let this rot any longer.

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McAdoo and the Giants were 11-5 last year and a playoff team. impatience is what will bring the Giants down.

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That is a “what if” in a world we’ll never have to know. I think 3 years should generally be given to give a guy time to bring in his players and have them mature, but if you are the owner and feel that the organization is headed in the wrong direction,the locker room has been lost, former players are coming out and speaking angry words about the organization (Twitter feed—->), you have do something about it and make a change.

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Former players shouldn’t run the organization. Strong smart owners should. The Giants owner needs to make the right decision here. The Giants had a playoff team last year and lost their best player this year.

It is just my opinion.

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And, if they feel strongly about him (as they should since they are the ones that hired him), they should stay the course. I just think, from the outside, it looks like he’s lost that team and that ain’t going to change in another year.

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Tom Savage is so bad, i can’t believe he was the QB picked after we picked Jimmy G

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QB in the draft is a pig in a poke.

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The top 2 QB’s of the 2016 draft are doing well

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Even a blind squirrel occasionally finds a nut.

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* 2 nuts 😛

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You two are 2 nuts.

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Goff didn’t do well under Fisher last year- depends on the coaching where these kids land.

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Goff was also a rookie.

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Hogan no longer wearing a sling! This is the week. Bring him back to scorch his former team!!

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Save him for the Steelers.

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This is the Pats. No saving players. Every game is equally important.

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Sanu is 6/6 as a passer, 228 yards, 3 TD’s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bcl4tXt5yUY

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Sanu is to QB as Vrabel was to TE.

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Phil Simms

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Being a former #NFL quarterback and knowing that experience, it’s unbelievable a guy could play 15 years and never miss a start #EliManning @Giants

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He’ll either be in Jax or Denver next year.

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Or Washington when Cousins leaves.

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Where is Cousins going?

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Denver.

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Or AZ.

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Or Cleveland- or maybe Buffalo?

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My head is spinning.

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Then you, too, could be an NFL GM!

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It’s Jimmy G time in the Bay Area!

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I’m glad SF has already been eliminated from the playoffs because I’d hate to have to face him in the Super Bowl. JIMMY G BABY!!!

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Ezpal must be having a great year with the giants and Eli.

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Maybe he is the one voting down to honor the Giants season 🙂

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NY tabloid headline: McDon’t!

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Shouldn’t it be McAdon’t?

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Adam Schefter

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ESPN analyst Herm Edwards will be interviewing for the Arizona State head coaching job this weekend, he confirmed.

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HELLO, WE PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!!!!! 🙂

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I’ll miss him on NFL Live, though.

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Good for Herm- I always liked him.

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Here ya go, Jim:

Adam Caplan

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#Broncos waived TE A.J. Derby off IR.

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A.J.!!!!

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If you can, listen to Mike Francesa’s commentary—–>>>>>>

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I can’t listen to it. Not without tearing what’s left of my hair out.

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He rips into the Giants management and the coach big time.

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He’s right to.

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Eli will land on his feet, just a matter of where.

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On the 25 yard line.

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He’ll be 37 next year. Might be too late to start over with a new franchise unless he takes the role of journeyman backup QB. Is there a situation that he could take over like Peyton did with Denver and be instant contenders?

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Jags, with Coughlin?

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Mebbe.

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Ooooh, interesting! And most New Yorkers go down to Florida to retire anyway.

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No. He should retire.

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The 49ers need to find out if Garoppolo can play. 5 games ought to to be enough for them to make an informed decision.

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The Jimmy Glass era is about to begin. Will he make it till week 17?

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He got hurt once

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Jimmy G!!!

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Over/Under on how many quarters until he is injured out of a game: 5

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booooooooo

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…k it!

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Well it’s obviously under, since he was once injured as a Patriot. Can’t be any other outcome. Duh.

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That O-line will get him killed!

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I think that is unfair. How may times did he get hurt?

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We shall see.

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The other addition is G Jason King. I wonder if that says anything about David Andrews’ health.

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or other OLmen

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They may just need bodies for practice reps, scout team

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They can swap him for a PS player. Guess there’s a rule that allows you to do that without exposing them to waivers.

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Although who would claim King?

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A queen.

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nice measurables for a ST only player

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Exactly. The only question is whether he can play rugby.

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boooooooo…

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…m!

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Yeah, ’cause it isn’t Ben McAdoo’s offense that sucks, it’s the QB whose entire offense is either injured or simply can’t play NFL football.

Fire McAdoo and let Eli coach the team!

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McAdoo was 11-5 last year. I think a franchise is making a mistake if they fire a coach after one bad year early in his coaching career.

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He has lost the team. No one wants to play for him.

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Just like the Jets got rid of that no talent Pete Carroll 🙂

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In theory, you’re right DP, but I have a bad feeling about the direction of the organization. It’s like when Pete Carrol was here and he always had a winning record but every year they got worse and worse.

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It’s the GM, and he hired the HC.

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Teams should give a HC more than two years. Especially when he was successful the first year.

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Wow, they are benching him for Geno Smith!? What happened to that organization? I actually feel bad for Eli. He was never the greatest QB but always around top 10-15 when he had a good coach. McAdoo is obviously the problem. If they can’t see that, they will be languishing in obscurity in the NFC East for years to come.

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i’m fine with that.

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http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/patriots/2017/11/howe_patriots_pass_rush_is_rolling_but_can_that_continue

Some of it was Miami’s OL but hopefully the pass rush is moving in the right direction.

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After being at Gillette on Sunday. I am going back to watch a High School Football Super Bowl game on Friday.

Go North North Attleborough !!!!!

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Geno Smith , Really?

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Is anything more of a playoff lock than the Pats faking the Cooks shovel jet sweep and hitting Dwayne Allen for a wide-open TD?

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A deep pass to Slater in the AFCCG (if healthy)?

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McD will undoubtedly call it

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Why not fake an Eli injury like the Broncos did with Peyton

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Joel Corry
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Jags can free up $19.053M of salary cap space in 2018 by cutting Blake Bortles before his option year, which is guaranteed for injury, becomes fully guaranteed on the 1st day of the 2018 league year (March 14).

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If you’re benching Eli, start Davis Webb. What are you evaluating Geno Smith for?

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Suck for Darnold or anyone else

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Well then you DEFINITELY start Davis Webb

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I think Geno might even be worse, he is a master of pick 6

🙂

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Matt Schaub would like to have a word with you, Smack.

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Wonder how Ez is feeling today.

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He will not be fine 🙂

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I’m ok with the whole situation 🙂

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Ez’s mood: Big blue

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Did Lamaar tweet that he was considering retirement? Need him to make it to NE’s spot on the waiver line.

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He just has to last 8 more games. Actually 7 since he probably wouldn’t play this week

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Well, he’s a Lion.

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We should pick him up. Small chance it happens though.

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I told you! 🙂

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Jints bench Eli for Geno (giggling) Smith. His 210 game starting streak will be over on Sunday when the Gmen play the Raiders. The interesting part will be if New York releases him at the end of the season. His future contract details: 2018: $10.5 million (+ $5 million roster bonus), 2019: $11.5 million (+ $5 million roster bonus), 2020: Free Agent.

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Neither was Geno.

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According to Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network, the Texans are releasing veteran outside linebacker Lamarr Houston.
Acquired earlier this season after Whitney Mercilus was lost for the season (when it made sense to add veteran parts), Houston had a sack in five games, and returned a fumble for a touchdown against the Colts.

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Hmmmmm……I think BB should at least give him a call and bring him in for a workout

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He can finish paying off his debt to the Pats (no the ACL wasn’t enough) by helping them on the edge.

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Then NE will definitely put a claim in on him

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Through the first four weeks, the Buffalo Bills defense allowed a mere 54 points, the best rate in the league. From week 5 onward, the Bills defense has allowed 192 points (the Bills offense gave up 14 to the Chargers) and their 27.4 points allowed per game is the worst in the NFL.

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Since week 5, no defense has been better at keeping points off the board than the New England Patriots. The Patriots as a team have given up 92 points over their past seven games, but 7 of those points are the result of an errant snap by back-up center Ted Karras. The defense was on the field for just 85 of those points, a mere 12.1 points allowed per game. The Jacksonville Jaguars defense allowed 87 points over that span (they gave up an additional 7 points to a kick return against the Los Angeles Rams), while the Philadelphia Eagles… Read more »

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Should the Giants trade Eli to the Jets?

A game with Eli as Jets QB versus Giants team with Geno would be really funny

🙂

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Chances are he is a Jaguar next year. That would make a potent team.

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Makes sense with Coughlin, too.

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The Patriots also brought OG Jason King back to the practice squad according to multiple reports, which means that New England must have promoted another player to create that vacancy. King spent the summer with the Patriots and spent two weeks on the Ravens practice squad.

That means Pats still have 1 roster spot open

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Saving it for Malcolm Mitchell 🙂

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That or Valentine

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Grigsby initially signed with the Rams as an undrafted free agent in 2016, spending half of his rookie season on their practice squad and finishing the year on their active roster and playing 130 special teams snaps in just 6 games. He was released during final cuts in 2017 and landed on the Ravens practice squad. He plays all the linebacker positions, but is likely expected to have a role on special teams.

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According to multiple reports, the Patriots added former Ravens linebacker Nicholas Grigsby to the active roster, signing him away from Baltimore’s practice squad. The 6’0, 230 pound Grigsby was undrafted out of Pittsburgh, but runs an incredible 4.51s 40 yard dash and 6.90s three cone, along with leaping an impressive 10’4 in the broad jump.

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At least he is fast

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but is he a good locker room guy?

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Pats don’t sign ST players that aren’t good locker room guys 🙂

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who took the roster spots of Marty and Ebner?

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Nicholas Grigsby (LB from Ravens PS) and OG Jason King is back. Don’t know who has been promoted yet.

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Thanks

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later fellas, I’m off to watch a bunch of 9 year olds try to play “basketball”

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Ew.

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it’s fun, in a comedy kind of way, not a sporting kind of way

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Deadsmack #NotDone

I’m sure they can shoot better than Lonzo Ball