Y Factors 2017: Patriots at Broncos

-by DNOMN8R314

It’s another prime time game for the Patriots, as they travel to regular foe Denver on Sunday Night Football. On the one hand, New England has to travel to Mile High Stadium and play in high altitudes; on the other hand, they don’t have to listen to the SNF theme song. Lucky them.

Can’t wait to see you (again): In the two weeks since their last game, the Patriots have added Brian Hoyer, Ricky Jean Francois, and Martellus Bennett to the roster. Bill Belichick usually gives new Patriots a couple weeks as a healthy scratch in order to learn the playbook, meaning Jean Francois probably won’t play. Hoyer is of course the new backup, while Bennett was with the team last year and, according to Mike Reiss, has a chance of playing against the Broncos. While the impact of Bennett’s return has been discussed, I am more curious to see what the addition of Jean Francois has on the rotation in the front seven. With Shea McClellin officially sidelined for the season, I think it is more likely that Kyle Van Noy will continue to play off the line, and possibly Adam Butler will play more snaps on the edge of the line. Either way, this week and the games following with give a sense of where the new Patriots will make their impact.

They misunderestimated me: Denver’s 3-5 record may look unthreatening, especially with Brock Osweiler at quarterback, but the Broncos still have talent. And most of that talent was around for the Broncos’ 2015 victories over New England. Despite lower statistics, wide receivers Demaryius Thomas and Emmanuel Sanders can always burn a defense, and running back C.J. Anderson is a threat on the ground. Denver still also boasts a strong pass defense, marked by top-tier cornerback trio Aqib Talib, Chris Harris Jr., and Bradley Roby. With the Patriots missing key players on both sides of the ball, they will have to continue to step up in key spots (and NOT go in assuming a win) in order to leave Denver with a victory.

The boys are back in town: Among the players expected to return to the field Sunday for New England are cornerbacks Stephon Gilmore and Eric Rowe, who (as we all know) struggled mightily early in the season, began to stride towards better play, then got hurt. While Johnson Bademosi and Jonathan Jones filled in well during their absence, and will likely see some snaps on defense for the rest of the season, Gilmore and Rowe have much higher ceilings. Against an offense with wide receivers who are skilled at going deep, led by a quarterback whose strength is throwing deep, they will need to play up to their expectations to keep Denver off the board and keep New England in the win column.

And a new feature: the BoSoxJim Tums Meter: one full bottle, with an extra bottle in reserve. The matchup looks good on paper, but the Broncos always play New England tough, especially in Denver. This should be a fun one.

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This is good morning humor.

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way ahead of you

cqrun
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Good question….. We had lots of the larvae in the yard a few weeks ago. Not sure why you are not seeing them this year….

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Was it particularly hot this summer?

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Not sure. A hot summer last year could reduce the LB populations by reducing the populations of their preferred prey. That would reduce the number of adults present to seed this year’s generation. Rain at the wrong time during development could also reduce their populations.

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all our enemies are getting crushed. some by us!

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At least the Jets are in the pit of a rebuild. The Fins are the worst of both worlds right now. Lousy and still need to be blown up.

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I was just reading Hugo’s comment below. I never knew that Collinsworth owned PFF. haha

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Him buying PFF was the impetus for them making their real stats private (much to the dismay of our long lost friend Clark!)

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Well- the Fish are getting royally squished.

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It did?? Hadn’t noticed.

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Well- it’s now 44-14.

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This needs to happen.

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K.I.S.S.

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Why does Cutler always throw into a crowd?

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because he doesnt care

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To make the INTs look accidental.

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In Brady and Gronk, do the Patriots not have the two guys who separate themselves most clearly from the rest of the league at their positions?

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Julio Jones?

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It’s funny. I heard someone saying that New England doesn’t have any players that could start on the Steelers.

Brady, Gronk, Cooks, McCourty, Gilmore, Butler just to start.

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Gruden on his worst in the booth is still way better than Collinsworth

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I love Gruden! His enthusiasm is infectious,
Collinsworth has been bland in the past but the last year or two he’s been better. I think buying PFF and getting into that has to do with it. He prepares very specific observations and some of them are interesting.

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he is good. but like on the the TD where Cam changed the play and threw it out to WR. Gruden said that it was all Cam.
No it wasnt Mccaffrey made a huge block

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Apparently Carolina is Dolphin-safe.

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Cutler is rejuvenated in Miami?

Gruden is not good tonight

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I’m incapable of having an impartial opinion about Jon Gruden

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he said Olsen is the best TE in the game. that is a lie.

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He has always been good.

Jonc77
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he said he is the BEST TE in the league. not good.
and look at Olsens stats.

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I didn’t say best- I said good.

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Yeah that made me cringe too.

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Technically Cutler was mummified before Gase gave him a sip of the FOuntain of Youth. Everyone wishes Gruden was mummified.

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What a freakin boring game- Cutler isn’t throwing enough picks.

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when have you ever seen a good game that involves Cutler

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Never. But he does throw a nice INT.

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I can’t imagine what watching this as a Miami fan is like. Geez.

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One of my co-workers is a Phin fan who is into self-abuse. He continually comes into my office after a loss talking smack. At least the Jets co-workers are respectful.

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You lost me at elf abuse…….

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CAR 17 MIA 7 at the half

Good night all.

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Cutler’s got the right jersey number #6. Reflects his Cowboy name Jay “Pick-6” Cutler.

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Cutler’s gotta cut.

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CAR 10 MIA 7

Cali is slacking.

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he is making the beast a steak

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The Beast has him trained well.

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Miami’s tackling is so bad

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“How bad is it?”
– J Carson audience.

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It’s so bad that ISIS has taken responsibility for it.

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CAR 10, DINGO’S ATTENTION SPAN 0.

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I’m waiting for an ESPN First and 79 at the opponent’s 10 yard line graphic.

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he is worn out from watching the 9ers and giants yesterday

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give mccaffrey the damn ball

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thank you

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CAR 3, MNF viewers 0.

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Hello all.

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hey MAC. i was wondering do you think its going to be a trying season still??

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wedding season is the worst

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We’re not there ………………………………………………………..
……..yet

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LOL

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1 game at a time……

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Wow. I know everyone is different but man…not sure I’d play.

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Dilly Dilly!!

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But at least I’m enjoying the ride

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STRANGER THINGS OR GTFO!!!

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OK, that’s enough hilarity for one evening. Time for some wild boar sausage, mushrooms, and potatoes; settle in with some hot Antiques Roadshow action. Mmm, heirloom porn….

Good night, you fellow antiques!!!

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Night Dino- give the cat a pat for me!

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Doing so at this moment. Kiss the beast for me. 🙂

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OK!!

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On a team of great ST players that invests a lot in it, Brandon King deserves props. Slater and Ebner get all the media attention but King has become a force.

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ESPN Stats & Info‏Verified account @ESPNStatsInfo
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Patriots are the first team in the last two seasons to score on 7 straight drives within a game.

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So much for the Denver D.

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Well- they can be better.

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Rivers in the concussion protocol—————————————–>

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No idea.

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He realized that he could have had a V8.

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Was last night the Pats’ best game of the season thus far?

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Yes.

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I agree.

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First time all three phases were clicking at the same time.

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Definitely. If the offense is cooking like that they look like the best team in the league. Offensive line was awesome.

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I’m rooting for Miami tonight. Hate seeing Cam in the playoffs.

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I’m rooting for Davante Parker tonight. And against Christian McCaffery. See, fantasy football makes even the most boring football game watchable!

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Namby-pamby! Take a stand!

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I’m with Boney.

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I’m with Dino

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Why is that weird? I call my pop Jerry, too. And his name is John.

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DinoScapelli, out-weirding people since 1957.

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I was only a twinkle in Jerry’s eye in ’57.

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Just want to point out that the UMass football team has won three out of the last four games, and gave #17 Mississippi State a good game last week. Next up: BYU. Lickin’ my damn chops!

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Andy Isabella…future Patriot

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Edelweiss, small and white.

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You mean Go, Statesmen!

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OK, Redmen, then.

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Sixty Minute Man.

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I agree.

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I don’t.

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I agree with that.

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Me too.

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I just got home.

I liked the game last night and 41-16 was a good win.

It’s on to Mexico to play the Oakland Raiders.

.

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Yo soy Fiesta! — Roberto Gronkowski

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Very rude calling you old.

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My favorite: John Elway can go to hell, and this whole coaching staff and team can go to hell. Ban me, I do not care! Peace everyone!

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NE is playing Chess and we are playing checkers. We are so outclassed mentally its not even funny.

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That’s a TD. I don’t see the ball ever touch the ground.
it’s a catch if you ask me
That looked like a catch to me
We caught a break.

Even Broncos fans thought Gronk caught it.

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Participation trophies for everyone

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I think it is really neat how clean Brady’s uniform is.

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Only good part of this game that I liked was the guy on the sideline getting bonked in the head with the ball that Brock was throwing out of bounds.

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When NE has problems, they last 20 minutes. When Denver has problems, they last two seasons.

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Wow. Was that a beautiful setup, adjustment and execution… this will be a sweet fg

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This one is obviously their version of DMONSTRATIVE:

Defense is garbage. Y’all talk about DT and the cap space. Von may be the biggest waste on the entire roster. He’s a not even a shadow of the guy that was SB MVP. And Talib…………

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Yay! I have the Patriots Defense on my FF team! 20 points so far!

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Thankfully, this will be the last year we play the Patriots year in and year out. 2018 will be the first time since 2010 that we won’t have to see NE, and I can only hope that this is the last time we have to line up against Brady.

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Wow did Bill Belichick get breast implants?

OK, that’s just mean.

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A MANSIERE

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I hate Brady breaking Peytons’ records……………..

– Scott Kacsmar

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The Checkdown‏Verified account @thecheckdown
.@DionLewisRB’s boosters were activated in the @Patriots’ win last night

https://twitter.com/thecheckdown/status/930143793738862592

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Warning: Red Button Activates Boosters 🙂

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@EvanDrellich Red Sox talking to reps for Logan Morrison, Carlos Santana on Day 1 of GM meetings
I like it.

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finally we can get a decent guitarist on the team

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Santana is 70 years old!

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Lucien signed to the Chiefs PS ——>

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Where was he before?

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Colts.

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His wiki page says he was signed to the Chiefs PS on 11/7. Maybe he got released and resigned in the past week.

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Colts seem to love signing ex Pats players.

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They seem to be among their best players this season…especially Sheard.

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At least it wasn’t Boyce 🙂

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Dammit, Cali!

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Still mad that TB12 got robbed of 2 TD passes . Should have had at least 5 last night….possibly 6 if Harris didn’t hook Cooks’ arm (although I’m having a brain fart and can’t remember if that drive ended in a TD pass anyway….I’ll look it up).

Yes, I’m greedy.

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OK, the drive with the deep pass to Cooks where Harris hooked his arm ended up with a TD pass to White.
So TB12 should have had 5 TD passes last night.

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You shut your filthy mouth!

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PFF NE Patriots‏ @PFF_NewEngland
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Patrick Chung lined up at safety on just 6.7% of his snaps this season, while he played at CB on 57.7% of his snaps.

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Then where did he line up on 35.6% of his snaps? LB?

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That’s my guess.

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Well, that’s really the only other option 🙂

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do you know how they define safety and CB for these?

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I’m guessing that they’re classifying time Chung spends lined up over a WR/TE in man coverage as “slot CB”

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Seems like it would be more useful to say it that way