Pats-Texans All-22: Is there hope for the defense?

-by memokerobi

I’m back with the second installment in this series after a week off. I didn’t have time to create GIFs and diagram plays for the Saints game so my apologies for that. I watched every snap of this game and my initial plan was to focus on the Pats offense this time, but after I watched Bill Belichick break down offensive plays, I decided to go with defense. You must watch the Belichick Breakdown because I think it is the best one ever.

Now back to Memo’s Breakdown.

This will probably end up being a very long article. I looked at critical plays that extended Houston drives that ended with a FG or a TD. I wanted to see if the mistakes by the Pats D were fixable issues or if they were outright getting outplayed and losing one-on-one battles. The answer was surprisingly neither. I didn’t realize how good of a game Deshaun Watson played when I watched it live. Sure, the Pats defense didn’t play an amazing game, but they didn’t look that bad when I watched them again. Watson did an amazing job of creating plays and we’ll see a couple below. I think although the defense has looked terrible to begin the year, we are seeing the worst right now and it will get better. The two main reasons why I think so:

  1. Most of the breakdowns in the passing game seem to be happening when the Pats are playing zone. There is a good chance that they’ll be able to fix this with more practices and game but I hope they do it sooner than later. Man coverage seemed to be really solid both by Stephon Gilmore and Malcolm Butler and it was Jonathan Jones who allowed three critical plays in man coverage (1 TD + 2 catches allowed on third down). Hopefully the return of Eric Rowe will help.
  2. The pass rush is getting there. I saw Deatrich Wise, Trey Flowers, Cassius Marsh, Lawrence Guy, and Malcom Brown in the backfield at least once on passing plays. The pass rush seems to be effective and they looked good in the previous games as well. A good pass rush would help a lot for a struggling defense. Finishing needs work though; they are letting the QBs escape quite often.

With my thoughts out of the way, let’s get to the five plays to examine.

2nd quarter, 3rd & 5, Houston 40, 9:40 left

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The Patriots are playing Cover 1 (man coverage with single high safety) with Duron Harmon as the single safety up top. The CBs are matched up with the receivers, Patrick Chung has TE Ryan Griffin, and Devin McCourty and Kyle Van Noy are responsible for the RB and Watson depending on how the play develops (I put Van Noy playing QB spy on the diagram). The Texans are running the identical route combo on both sides of the field with the inside receiver running a go route and the outside receiver running an out route. Watson’s first read seems to be Bruce Ellington running the out vs Jones. With his first read covered well, he proceeds to the second read which is Griffin vs Chung down the field. Chung played this well and with both reads unavailable and the RB covered on the check down, Watson decides to run for it with the pocket collapsing. Adam Butler falling here is critical as it allows for a lane for Watson to escape the pocket. Watson takes off and does a great job of attacking McCourty’s outside shoulder then cutting it back for the extra yard to get the first down. It is a very good play by Watson here to get the first down and it eventually leads to three points for the Texans.

2nd quarter, 3rd & 5, Houston 21, 1:56 left

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This drive by the Texans didn’t end with points but it was a critical first down here because it significantly decreased the chances of a Patriots score before the half to set up the “double-score.” This is a breakdown in the Pats defense and although I am not 100% certain where the breakdown occurred, here’s my best interpretation. The Patriots seem to be playing Cover 2 here with Flowers also dropping down to spy Watson (forgot to draw this on the diagram). D-Mac and Harmon are the deep safeties and Elandon Roberts and Jones seem to be playing the hook zones with Van Noy covering the seam. The Texans have TE Stephen Anderson running a post with Van Noy and then Chung picking him up and the outside receiver runs a hitch which is covered by Jones. Griffin is running a simple flat route here which should be easily picked up by the curl/flat defender in Cover 2, Gilmore in this case. However, Gilmore plays it too deep and moves towards the middle of the field, leaving Griffin wide open for a first down. It looks to be a mistake by Gilmore with Jones later talking to him and pointing to him like “It’s supposed to be your responsibility,” then pats him on the bum “Don’t worry about it.” Easy first down for the Texans.

3rd quarter, 2nd & 22, Houston 34, 9:53

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The Texans drive seems to be dead at this point and the Pats are playing a soft coverage here to prevent a third-and-short or a first down. It looks to be man coverage vs the outside receivers by Jones and Butler as both trail their man until the end of the play. All the defenders between Jones and Butler are playing zone with two hook and two curl/flat defenders. Harmon is the single high safety as usual. The Pats do a good job of covering all the options and it looks like the only one Watson can go to is DeAndre Hopkins on the hitch for a 7-8 yard max gain. Instead, Watson looks to escape the pocket through the lane that Guy vacated, but with Guy pulling a spin move he is forced to move to his left. It is now a scramble drill at this point and usually when a QB scrambles to one side he also makes a throw to that side. The Pats’ zone defenders start clogging the right side of the field and leave the numbers on the left (Watson’s right) uncovered. Griffin who is running an out route works down the field and is open. Watson makes the throw from the numbers to outside the numbers on the opposite side of the field with Guy in his face. This is just an incredible play by Watson for the first down and I’m not even sure if this is his best play of the day. Texans score a TD on this drive.

4th quarter, 2nd & 7, Houston 46, 13:48 left

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This is one of the two big plays by RB D’Onta Foreman. Pats are in man coverage against the Texans trips formation to the right. Gilmore, Butler, and Jones are responsible for the receivers; McCourty has Griffin; and Harmon is up top. Roberts is blitzing here and that leaves Van Noy to cover Foreman. Pats CBs do a good job of covering the receivers, Jones takes Hopkins out of the play with excellent press coverage. Recognizing the blitz by Roberts, Watson does a good job of identifying that Van Noy, who is lined up between the hashes, is covering Foreman, who is lined up outside the hashes and is running a route to the flat. Foreman is open on the flat and Watson makes the throw. This should be a simple play that should result in a max 5-6 yard gain. But instead of playing the receiver Van Noy decides to play the ball. He is playing catch-up here and he should know that he is not in a good position to play the ball, and even if he is the risk is too big to take the risk. He misses the ball and completely takes himself out of the play. With all other defenders on the other side of the field it is a 34-yard gain by Foreman.

4th quarter, 1st & 20, Houston 23, 5:26 left

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There isn’t much need for words on this one. Pats do a good job of covering the WRs in man coverage. There is a holding call on Jones but all I see is another great LOS battle with Hopkins that takes the WR out of the play. Roberts and Flowers look like they are responsible for the RB and the QB depending on how the play goes like McCourty and KVN in the first play. Seeing Watson scramble, Flowers moves towards him leaving Foreman uncovered for a 31 yard gain. I also put the end zone view on this one so you can see the incredible play of Watson better. Enjoy.

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The heir to Brady.
Been waiting almost 2 years to see this kid play and he is the real deal and he will fall to the Patriots because he made a mistake in 2015.
https://www.diehards.com/west-virginia/will-grier-west-virginia-quarterback-pro-football-focus-deep-passing-yards

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Grier was great at Florida also, minus the gaudy numbers that he is putting up now because of the Mountaineers offense. Comeback wins and clutch play were no issue for Grier at Florida which is why he reminded me of a young Brady the moment I saw him play

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I hope not. I remember the crappy days of Eason, Millen, Hudson and Zolak so they better get a good qb. Watching those guys play was awful

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RIP Monty Hall- dead at 96.

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I loved that show as a kid.
What door did he pick?

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The basement door.

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He’s been immortalized by the Monty Hall Problem!

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Carr or Mariota in Fantasy Football ?

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Who are the Raiders playing?

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Denver
Tenn is playing Houston.
I was thinking Denver and Houston defenses were a wash and go with Carr because of better offensive talent.

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Maybe but I like Mariota this week better.

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I’d play Mariota. For as good as they are, Brady destroyed them. And there is a huge advantage fantasy-wise for a scrambling QB like Mariota who can get yards with his legs and get in the endzone himself.

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FWIW, 98% of fantasypros agree with me. Then again, 100% agreed that Demaryius Thomas would have a better game than Hogan last week. That really screwed me over! 🙂

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OMG- that happened at a high school game??————————————–>

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I still haven’t written the Y Factors for this week. Got to knock those out quickly tonight.

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Trevathan appealing suspension ->

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Fantasy football question. Jameson Crowder has done squat so far. I’m thinking about dropping him for another wideout (Adams health concerns), but the best available are Allen Hurns, Paul Richardson, etc. Should I make the move or hope like mad Washington’s offense actually starts working?

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I made up my mind by typing this question.
I dropped Crowder for Alex Smith.
I now have three quarterbacks.
I’ll try and trade one.

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I’ve had Alex Smith since week 1.. He’s turning back into his old consistently-average self again.

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Going to try and trade him then.

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Sounds like Adams is fine, from all the reports I’ve read.. I think it’d be a mistake to drop him at this point. Need more info on his status.

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I’m not going to drop Adams. I’ve dropped Crowder.

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Sorry, misread that.. my bad

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All good.
Pretty sure I’m going to drop to 1-3 in this league. I have good wideouts but my QBs/RBs have underperformed when in the lineup.

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Who are your RBs? I also have Davante Adams, and started him. Kinda bitter.

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This is a PPR league so I didn’t draft RBs early. I have Theo Riddick, James White, Tarik Cohen, and Alvin Kamara. (Started Cohen this week, he did squat)

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I would stick with Crowder or go with Hurns.

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OK. errands to run. will be back later. Hope you feel better Smack and Cali.

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Trevathan 2-game suspension ->

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Dirty hits aren’t as high on the NFL’s so what list as allegedly deflating footballs.

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Ah… as allegedly more probably than not knowing about deflating footballs.

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Seems like they’re penalizing him for the result, not the hit. It was malicious but not that unusual.
I don’t mind suspending him, but it doesn’t seem consistent.

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I would LOVE to go to the Twins-Yankees wild card game but I’m helping out with youth ministry at my church that night. Will still be rooting long-distance.

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Go Twins!

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Finally! Sox take the East!

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Sigh…. Try to keep up. 🙂

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:>(

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SOX WIN!!!!!!! Yanks to the WC game!!!

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Yanks win, but Sox lead 6-3 with 1 out in the top of the 9th. If they win, they clinch the division.

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Sox are gonna blow this game

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pfffffftttttt…. no faith…

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It was a reverse jinx!!!

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LOL!!!!

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2-0 4th, only 1 out

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sox up 1-0 in 4th

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The last 3 days were crap, i have been dealing with a flu and it’s uncharacteristically hot weather, considering it is already Autumn.
Only today, i got rid of the fever and the tiredness of my body, but my throat still hurts.

Any relevant news about the Pats since last Wednesday?

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Not really-sorry to hear you’re not feeling well- it’s very hot here too 🙁

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I’m feeling much better today. Still not 100%

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I have a cold too- miserable in this heat.

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I wish you a fast recovery.

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Me too 🙂

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I recommend fluids, 15 minute steam sessions for your sinuses, Advil for aches and pains, and lots of bed rest including at least 3 hrs. of Patriot football on Sunday.

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Only 3 hours??

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read closely, it said AT LEAST 3 hours…… The heat must be getting to you. 🙂

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54-53 pats over panthers
Lots of things to fix
DB’s need to play more man to man
Lb’s need to blitz
Our kicker has lost a step
OL needs to better
Hopefully by week 8 we have it figured out

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that’s like a WNBA score

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That is almost a poem.

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Figures leave it to USC to screw up a shot at the playoffs, ugh.

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I know that I haven’t been the most active poster here, but I feel like we are a solid group of caring individuals, linked by our passion for the game that is hopefully won in February by NE. So I decided to share with you the sad news of the passing of my father a couple of days ago, after a stunningly short illness. I’ll continue to watch the game and read this forum, but won’t post for a while. Take care and Go Pats.

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Sorry to hear Mesko, my condolences and prayers for you and your family bruh. We’re here for you anytime.

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that sucks buddy. i lost my pops in 11 and ill never be the same. im fellin for ya

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My condolences to you and your family. Mesko.

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I’m sorry for your loss. My condolences to you and your family.

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I’m so sorry to hear that Mesko. My condolences to you and your family. Having gone through a similar experience in March, my best advice is try to stay strong and remember him well. Best wishes and hope to see you here soon

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So sorry for your loss. Prayers for you and your family.

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I’m sorry for your loss Mesko.

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Sorry for your loss Mesko. Thoughts and prayers for you and your family.

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Sorry for your loss.

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So sorry to hear of the passing of your father mesko- losing a parent is a hard thing to go through- wishing for peace and healing for you and your family.

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Sorry, for your loss.

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My condolences, Mesko

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I’m sorry for your loss. Always shocking to lose someone suddenly. My thoughts are with you and your family, Mesko.

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Damn hot- need to get the heck out of here.

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Memo, great article again! I second MAC, you should be be contributing mainstream.

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SOx lose, Yanks win. Magic # remains 1. Lead down to 2 games. They don’t make it easy. If they end up tied, the playoff is in NY. Loser gets WC.

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I’ll say this, memo could easily be recruited by some of the Pats related web sites looking for writers. He’s better than free, heck, better than all of the hack “sports analysts” out there, and that’s saying something.

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My guess is memo is a pretty talented guy, and can choose several career paths.

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Pablo Escobar’s henchman for the win?!

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Thanks a lot MAC, I really enjoy doing these and for now, I’m happy doing them here 🙂

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Mediocre locker room guy

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Punter Ryan Allen: “Stumptown. You can get it at the Thinking Cup in Boston. Solid. That’s a great roast.”

That is such a punter answer. Honestly though, Thinking Cup kicks ass! Best coffee shop in Boston. I don’t understand Dunkin Donuts people. That ain’t coffee.

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He was probably holding in a sh*t…That stuff will go right through you!

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Dumpin Donuts

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It’s not bad. Better than Dunkins!

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I go there for the glazed donuts. I hate coffee 🙂

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I just noticed the photo to the link on this article.. owww

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?

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Sorry, didnt mean to have the gif run over and over again.. thought you could collpase it.. so I deleted it. But, with Tom Price resigning today I had to take it. Don’t know when I’ll get this chance again.

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Great stuff Memo!!!

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I’m out. Have a good weekend folks. Hope Solder plays better

Hope this Solder doesn’t show up

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Go Pats!

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Have a good one, Jdog.

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Nice to see Burkheadeus Rex trending in the right direction

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How is the Tyrnstile Solderus doing?

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Facing extinction

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That would leave a large footprint.

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AKA Rex Machina

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when he scores a game winning TD at the buzzer, it’ll be Deus Rex Machina

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GREAT fantasy team name!

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Cannon “questionable” for Sunday- as is Rowe and HT.

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Russell Westbrook- 5 years/205 million———————->

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WOW!
That’s absolutely awesome for the fans of the OKC Thunder.

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Now I wonder if trading for Carmelo Anthony had to do with this decision at all.

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Could have been a demand on Westbrook’s part.

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holy cow! and on KD’s birthday lol

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Hope he’s not rusty.

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My hope is the Hightower along with others can help.

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Well, on passing downs I wouldn’t mind it. Look forward to seeing his blitzes up the middle again.

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My favorite.

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They win Super Bowls.

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They must be worried about Stewart.

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With Carolina being a top D in the league I wanna see if this O can keep putting up 35 plus again. This game should get Brady real sharp to dissect the bucs on Thursday as well.

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The Saints didn’t seem to have any trouble. The Panthers previous 2 opponents were the 49ers and Bills.

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Some 3 and outs from the Patriots defense early could help.

Again, I realize the Patriots has been bad but a key stop early could help them play from the lead.

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This is a game where they should win easily (even with their issues on defense).

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I’ve been saying this since the beginning of the week…in between my rants about how poorly the defense has been playing. 🙂

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I know, right?

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I never take a game for granted. Houston was 1-1 with 20 points scored when they came here last week.

If it wasn’t for a defense stop and A 75 yard TD drive with 23 second left. The Patriots would have lost 2 games in a row at home.

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I think you missed the word “should” in my post. 🙂

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Even Chris Simms said the catch was legit. So you should be ashamed of yourself.

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Neil , is it time for the Bears to make a change at QB?
Thoughts?

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Their offense is a hot mess. Glennon is a turnover machine, but they have no skill players for a QB to throw to. I just don’t see any upside to throwing Trubisky in there now, when he has 0% chance to succeed and will be crushed by the pourous O-line.

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Yup, no point this early in the season when the season is lost and going up against the vikings isn’t ideal for your first start, half way through the season would probably be the better call.

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On a selfish note, it would be great if the opposing defense actually respected the Bears’ QB so that Howard doesn’t have to run into 9-10 man boxes.
I don’t think his shoulder will ever be 100% this year. Maybe the bye week will help.

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I think they might be better with Trubisky for the reasons that the crew touched on. He’s more mobile, and their only asset is their running backs so you could move the pocket more and focus on quick throws.
But Trubisky’s development is the first priority, if you think its not best for him you don’t do it.

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I am not going to let this protest take away my joy of the game even if I disagree or agree with it.

The week before Trump spoke of this there were 6 protest in the NFL.
The week after there were over 250. IMO, Trump is making this bigger then in needs to be.

I see some fans with their hats on during the national anthem in most sporting events I go to and I have to more the the average fan.

PS – I stood during the anthem.

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There you go violence is the answer.
If I do that I get kicked out and lose my season tickets forever.

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We all pick and choose what we want to believe.. like me, believing the Patriots have a great defense right now.

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Was any explanation given for Timmons’ bizarre behavior before the Fins first game? I see he is back on the active roster now.

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Yeah.

“I really, really, really want to be a Steeler, Mike. Can you make that happen?” – Timmons

“No.” – Tomlin

“Hey Adam, I’m ready to come back to work.” – Timmons

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Anybody know of the best way to find cheap landscapers? I used to have this Mexican guy that did my lawn at my old house about 3 years ago. I tried calling him but his phone is disconnected…i hope he didn’t get deported. I need someone to clear out all the brush in my backyard, which includes some poison ivy and poison oak.

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Don’t worry, he’ll be back next week. 😉

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Well I’m not looking for real companies…just a guy or a couple guys that need money under the table 🙂

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I’m sure if you offer up some weed and coconut oil, Nate will do it for you.

Jdog Lemon Head
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He may not do it for Coconut Oil because it’s 100% fat

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I believe Nate has some alternative facts for this issue.

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That was an all-time PFF/EPSN moment

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I believe he said that he didn’t use Palm Oil because it was 100% fat so he used coconut oil.

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Then it was the other way around. I know I should remember after I spent hours on the topic with him, but years of drug use…errr… I mean old age, has made me forget.

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There’s a Josh Boyce joke in there somewhere.

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I’ve heard Home Depot but I don’t think I’ve actually seen them…probably because I don’t go there early enough.

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Also, I want them to have their own transportation and tools

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Go hug a landscaper.

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I think Nate calls himself a Landscaper because he’s a Weed Eater. Just like Janitors who call themselves Sanitation Engineers

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Or how “people who make you talk right” call themselves Speech Pathologists

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sorry, I only know good landscapers in ATL. Are you on Next Door for your neighborhood? That or Yelp reviews might be your best bet. Also, you could try contacting the Georgia Urban Ag Council for a recommendation, but again, their membership is typically “better” legit companies.

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I figured you only knew of legit companies lol. I just need someone to clear out the backyard so I don’t need real companies…I’m trying to save some money.

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Just let Allen block for Lewis. No need to pass to Allen.

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“Hey, that’s my job!” – Develin

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at least Develin can catch, though

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Why didn’t I know TJ Ward went to the Bucs? We can’t escape that dude!!!

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Maybe we can sacrifice Allen in order to take him out so that Gronk’s knees will be safe.

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That could work. Not sure of who else we could sacrifice.

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I needed a post moderated, so I figured I would pass on that one for now 🙂

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Not sports related, but here’s some cool news. They finalized the date that my late grandfather will posthumously receive a US Congressional Gold Medal. The ceremony will be at the US Capitol next month. Pretty cool stuff. I’ll fly to DC to witness the ceremony. Just sucks that I’ll be in DC for vacation the weekend before, fly home and arrive just after the Pats/Falcons game started, then have to fly back to DC 2 days later. Wouldn’t be worth it to do a change ticket, and pay 2 days extra for hotel (hotels are super expensive in DC, and… Read more »

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That’s awesome, Jdog! Very happy for you and your family.

We’ll get Sami to do something so they have to delay the start of the game for an hour or two. 🙂

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It’s all good…I have DVR…just need to make sure I don’t check any scores or talk to anybody…will be hard to do IN ATLANTA…especially since I’ll likely be wearing my Patriots gear.

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Ted Mosby’s Sensory Deprivator 5000. He didn’t want any spoilers during the Super Bowl because the group couldn’t watch it live.

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http://www.espn.com/blog/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4806308/after-quiet-opener-rob-gronkowski-has-decisively-answered-questions

To me the big question at TE is not Gronkowski but with Allen.

Can we get the blocking from Allen to make the running game better and the 3rd and 1 yard when we desperately need it?

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Allen should only be used for blocking- his ability to catch the ball is on par with Boyce 🙂

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Dammit, Cali!
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The truth hurts.

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If we do a serious comparison, DAB is on par with Scott Chandler (as a Patriot)

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Chandler had a bad knee- Allen has no excuse.

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I think you need the Hallmark movie today 🙂

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DAB has bad hands

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Now it makes sense as to why TB12’s pass to him when he was wide open was bad. He really, really didn’t want to throw it to him. Nobody else was open so at the last second figured he give it a shot.:)

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That was indeed an awful throw by Brady.

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Jamie Collins out for the Browns with a concussion——————————–>

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freelancing with headbutts?

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Burkhead back at practice 🙂

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Have a feeling he’ll be a scratch though. It’ll be a short turn around week for Tampa so I think they hold him out this game.

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Agree. He’ll play in TB I think.

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I doubt he’ll play- probably just want to get him stretching and do some light workouts with the team.

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For sure. See how he responds and get him back into the swing of things