Pauly’s Guide to Your Patriots Draft (2017 repost)

-by Pauly

[ADMIN’S NOTE: This was originally written for last year’s draft. I am re-posting it without any changes because it’s so freakin’ funny.]

There are already plenty of sites and articles aimed at giving you greater insight into the top prospects’ strengths and weaknesses and even more forecasting when they’ll be drafted and by whom. So, instead of writing something player-specific with a limited shelf life, I wanted to give you a Patriots draft guide that will be as applicable 5 years from now as it is today. So, as much as I wanted to hunker down in front of YouTube, squinting at grainy footage of the backup left guard from Minnesota Mining & Dentistry College for hours on end, I saw a greater need. (That’s right. It’s not that I didn’t want to put in the effort, it’s that I… uh… okay I didn’t want to put in the effort.)

You know that relative that gets waaaaaaaaaaaaay more drunk than everyone else at family gatherings? That’s the draft. It’s Crazy Uncle Vito, devolving right in front of your eyes from the guy who taught you how to ride a bike to the guy drinking vanilla extract when all the beer is gone.

Every team is, in their own unique way, Crazy Uncle Vito. Choosing how big a risk they want to take until the night wears on and risk is all there’s left to take. The Patriots are no exception to this.

First Round – Almost Normal

Even Crazy Uncle Vito shows up to the shindig (fairly) sober. He’s charming. He’s happy to be here. He displays an almost normal-human grasp on the concept of “personal space.” You can let him interact with the kids without feeling like you’re one moment away from saying “oh god NO!” at any given time. In short, he’s as predictable as he’s going to be for the rest of the evening.

And so it is with the Pats. You’ll at least have heard of the player they take. And it’s almost a bonus to hear Kiper call one a reach at that spot (Seymour, Mayo, Mankins) because it’s a good sign they’ll still be around in 10 years. If a really good player falls a bit too far (Vince Wilfork, Malcom Brown) they’ll scoop him up. If a solid citizen with clear starter skills in an area of need is there (Solder, Hightower, Jones) they’ll pluck him and call it a day. If not, they’re trading back. Because Crazy Uncle Vito loves extra 4th- and 6th-round picks almost as much as he likes his Narragansett Lager.

Second Round – Where the Questionable Choices Start

The night is still young and so is Crazy Uncle Vito. Or at least he thinks he is. Everybody is still happy to see each other. The appetizers are being scarfed down. Everybody has found the beer, though Crazy Uncle Vito is a little ahead of the curve there. He’s a little louder than anybody else. The slaps on the back are getting a little harder. He’s dropped the first f-bomb in front of the kiddos but there is, at least, a “whoops” not far behind it.

In the draft, this is where the Pats sometimes get a little ahead of the curve. Taking a safety from football powerhouse Illinois (Wilson) who… um… might have been there a few rounds later. Taking “the other guy” from Boston College (Brace) or Florida (Cunningham). I’d also point out the injury risk guys (Dowling) but since one of them turned into a tight end for the ages (Gronk) it buys them a lot of leeway here.

Third & Fourth Round – Needs? We Have Needs?

The relatives who only see him once a year are starting to remember exactly why the word “Crazy” is permanently prefixed to “Uncle Vito.” He’s telling questionable jokes to the more reserved relatives. His hand is lingering a little too long on the shoulders and knees of the prettier nieces. He’s heading into your bathroom with a cigarette and a lighter.

This is about the point in the draft where the Pats seem to remember those positions everybody else thought they needed to address early in the draft. Oh you thought we needed another RB (Ridley)? Backup QB (Mallett)? Some younger WRs (Tate, Price… sigh)? A pass rusher perhaps (Bequette… again sigh)? Half the Rutgers secondary? C’mon, all you talking heads said we needed to fix that secondary…wasn’t that what you had in mind? *snickers evilly*

Fifth Round – The Unsurprising Surprise

There is, you always know, going to be that point in the night where Crazy Uncle Vito does something that only Crazy Uncle Vito would do. Offer a joint to one of the kids. Pee in the kitchen sink. Flash grandma. You don’t know exactly what it will be, but you know when it is coming and, when it happens, you will be completely unsurprised.

And just like Crazy Uncle Vito, the Pats are predictable here. If at all possible, the Pats are taking a specialist (Slater, Cardona, Mesko). Unless of course they already took him late in the 4th (Gost). Or unless there’s a guy battling cancer (Cannon).

Sixth Round – Where Miracles Happen

The reason why the family doesn’t just shun Crazy Uncle Vito from the gatherings, other than because he’s family, is because, for all the moments of unpredictably irresponsible (and borderline unforgivable) behavior, he’s the only member of the family who can also make a truly random-yet-transcendent moment that everyone talks about years later. The loud, lengthy fart that punctured a BBQ that had gotten too serious. The perfect drunken retort to the aunt who was getting a little too preachy. Getting people to laugh at your grandfather’s funeral. Whatever. They don’t happen often. But when they happen, you remember them forever.

And you will remember forever what round TFB12 was drafted in. That’s right. The same one as the rugby player with one year of football under his belt (Ebner) who likely sends Coach Vrabel a Rolex every year for Christmas for whatever it was he said to BB that got him drafted.

Seventh Round – Where Anything Else Happens

Going out in a blaze of glory (infamy? notoriety? felony?) is a given with Crazy Uncle Vito. Is he leaving in a police cruiser? On a Mardi Gras float? On little Timmy’s bicycle? Or does he wind up sleeping on the couch? Who knows! But it’s going to be fun to watch.

The 7th round is exactly the same way. Anything can happen here. A QB from Kent State? Check! A QB who barely started for his college team? Why not! Yet another Rutgers player? As if you could have too many. Players who mistakenly punch cops? Pfffft—he probably had it coming. You get the point. It’s my favorite round. With the Patriots, you feel like nothing is off the table. If they drafted a Zimbabwean cricket player here would it really surprise you? The winner of the Kentucky Derby? An inanimate Abdow’s Big Boy statue? Okay, I’ll stop now.

The point is—it’s a ride. Enjoy the ride. They aren’t going to take players we wanted. They are going to take at least one safety that will make Mel Kiper drink bourbon on air. So have fun with it. Make a drinking game out of it. Down a shot every time they draft someone from Florida or Rutgers. Pound a tall boy every time they pick someone who no longer has the knees he was born with. Because, in the end, they could draft eight belly dancers with heart defects and still win the division.

Enjoy.

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Kariya
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BB should have made all these moves during or just before the draft. Now we will all be left with a vague sense of dissatisfaction during/after the draft when all we’ll have to talk about are a bunch of JAGs the Pats draft just for the hell of it.Report

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Eh… fewer pissed off people because they didn’t take “their” guy.Report

HunterCenter
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Ryan Switzer, or I am going to be the next Fireman Ed!!!Report

BoSoxJim
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I like Switzer but I like Austin Carr betterReport

HunterCenter
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but imagine how bored we would have been over the past 2 months!Report

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When we traded for Randy Moss, was it during the draft, or was it overnight? What I’m wondering is if there has ever been a pick for player trade announced during the draft. As in, “New England trades the 110th pick to Oakland for Randy Moss. Oakland is now on the clock”Report

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IIRC, it happened on Sat night after the first 3 rounds were over.Report

BoSoxJim
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Pretty sure it happened on the 2nd day (Sunday).Report

Shaggy
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You may be right but I’m pretty sure it didn’t happen as the draft was in progressReport

BoSoxJim
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Actually, you may be right. The deal may have been made Saturday night, but it was finalized after Moss took his physical Sunday morning. Don’t remember if they waited to announce the trade until the Pats pick came up or not.Report

MrScratch
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yes, it has happened many times.Report

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Interesting – how come I don’t remember any?
So theoretically, the Saints could decide when pick 32 comes up that they don’t like their choices, and still flip it for Butler?Report

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Yes. Almost all of the time though those are usuaully late round deals.Report

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The Blount-Demps trade may be an exampleReport

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I’m not sure though if the pick is technically traded or the draft rights or if matters.Report

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I believe it was during the draft.Report

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Andy Benoit✔@Andy_Benoit
#Patriots a coverage-based pass D, not a pressure-based D. Keep in mind when they’re making their draft picks.

What the hell is wrong with being both? They’re not mutually exclusive.Report

Kariya
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Maybe his implication is that Pats defenders on the line or second level have a lot of coverage responsibilities that they can’t bring the same level of pressure on a majority of the defensive snaps? That would be my guess.Report

BoSoxJim
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How does that stop them from getting a penetrating 3 tech?Report

Kariya
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They aren’t easy to find? I took it more as a description of the current situation rather than the current situation being the result of a deliberate plan (to not have pressure). But the guy seems to imply it is the plan with the thing about draft picks. Which seems stupid.Report

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Submitted my mock for the contest. While I can’t share with you my gut feeling mock due to competition, I can share with you guys my analytical mock based on 25 different projections made on fanspeak.

3rd Round. Jordan Willis Edge
3rd Round. Pat Elflein C/G
4th Round. Connor McDermott OT
5th Round. Harvey Langi LB
6th Round. Channing Stribling CB
7th Round. Fred Ross WR
UDFA Damarius Travis S
UDFA Dalton Crossan RB
UDFA Leon McQuay III S
UDFA Javancy Jones Edge
UDFA Josh Tupou DTReport

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Why do people keep wanting Elflein. He’s a good run blocker but his passpro leaves much to be desired. Pocic is a better pass protector, plus he provides position versatility along the entire OL.Report

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I had Pocic a lot in my simulations because he can be switched to tackle. Unfortunately Elflein was picked more because of fanspeak having him higher than Pocic.Report

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I don’t know much about the non-edge prospects in this class. But I can totally see the Pats going after Travis. He checks a lot of their boxes.Report

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If we don’t go after the Florida Safety that they are reportedly so interested in, then I think they go after Travis or McquayReport

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I guess I’m the only one that couldn’t care less about the 2 Super Bowl losses to the Giants anymore. I’m not going to sit and rewatch them, but they don’t have the sting they once had when thinking about it.

Honestly, the AFC championship game losses to the Broncos/Colts annoy me more than anything.

Frankly, I want the Pats/Giants rematch in the Super Bowl this year. Bring’em on!!!Report

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I will say that these are the two SBs I have never re-watchedReport

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I watch SB 42 up until Moss scores the go-ahead TD. Then I shut it off and try to pretend they won.
I watch SB 46 until the Giants get the ball for their game winner.Report

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I still think about “what if Bill doesn’t let the Giants score”. Maybe it ends up being a Butler-esque defensive or special teams stop.

We’ll never know…Report

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They almost never play the 2011 Super Bowl anymore. Must be the Hernandez factor.Report

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I haven’t re-watched the Super Bowl. Don’t really want to. I saw some of the highlights after it happened and it felt cheap to watch them again. Like trying to have the same dream twice. Not the same.Report

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I haven’t watched it again either, but would like to. Not to “relive the moment” but just for the Xs and OsReport

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I’ve lost count how many times I’ve watched it (and all the associated specials that came after). I think I’ll watch it again late tonight (after the wife falls asleep).Report

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I’ve rewatched the game at least 3-4 times since. Still can’t figure out how the hell we won and it’s amazing every time.Report

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I enjoyed seeing Arthur Blank and his wife on the sidelines againReport

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I still laugh at him almost breaking her arm during the tying 2 point conversion.Report

HunterCenter
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Holy cow, the Niners were in the shotgun 99% of the time in 2016. No wonder they sucked!Report

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Does that mean that Kaep can’t call a play??Report

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You work with what you’ve got.Report

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I’m just glad Brady is in the shotgun less nowReport

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Andy Benoit ✔ @Andy_Benoit
Have we ever seen a defending SB champion improve their roster as much over the offseason as #Patriots have?Report

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You mean we finally won the offseason?Report

bring
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our pickups weren’t washed up older dudes, we nabbed some younger guys with a few years still left on their dealsReport

Panic Time
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That sounds bad, we’re getting into a perennial Washington team territoryReport

HunterCenter
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Maybe the 2003 Pats, into the 2004 offseason? After all, they did add Kevin Faulk.Report

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IcwatudidthereReport

Frank Stein
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As miraculous as SB51 comeback was .. Butler interception will hold a special place in my heart .. TB was 3-2 in SBs and the last two being losses. Even though we all agree it is very difficult to get to the SB and getting to 2 extra SB should not be counted against him we all know that it would have been .. forgotten would be his surgeon like dissection of one of the league’s best defenses but only his 2 INTs would be talked about and blamed .. The Kearse catch would be mentioned in passing but only… Read more »
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Brady could be 7-0 in SBs, or just as easily 0-7Report

Panic Time
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or just be 5-2Report

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just?Report

Panic Time
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That’s the only record that matters, right?Report

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If they go to another SB- I just hope it’s a blowout- my heart can’t take this nail biting stuff anymore and my liver was crying for days.Report

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even now I will sneak in highlights occasionally … I just wish the end was cleaner .. I was stuck in no mans land not knowing whether to celebrate or stay in my position that obviously had brought all the good luck .. if Bennett had caught it I could have jumped and screamed to my heart’s contentReport

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I was in shock for at least a week- still hard to believe.Report

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they’ll blowout the Cowboys 69-0.Report

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Gronk would like that scorelineReport

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I did not chose it by accidentReport

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If?Report

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I’m not jinxing it 🙂Report

HunterCenter
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got us back on track, I agree. And now 3-in-4 is a legit reality AGAIN, to bookend Brady’s career. Amazing.Report

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HunterCenter
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good analysis in that article.Report

BoSoxJim
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I don’t agree with some of the conclusions though. I’ve never been a fan of “wait until you really need a position before you draft that position”. That’s a good way of getting into the trap of having to “draft for need” and that can force you to get a player that really isn’t the best fit…but you have to get someone. Also, why draft a SS to just push Richards (who was a mistake in the first place)? They should be thinking about getting Chung’s replacement. This draft has some pretty good options to potentially replace Edelman and Amendola.… Read more »
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I mean, sure, there is always some room for improvement at all positions. I do disagree with Hill that CB does not need to be considered in the draft until 2018. If a good one falls in this 2017 draft, you pounce. I agree with Hill that OT is a need to draft NOW if one falls. As for Cooks, seeing as he can be signed through 2019, to me that qualifies as “long term” in today’s NFL, and Cooks/Hogan/Mitchell is a good core even after Jules/Dola are gone soon. I agree they should be finding Chung’s replacement, and I… Read more »
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I don’t consider 2 years to be long term.
Yes, if any really good player falls to you (or is within your striking distance) you take him. You don’t say “well, maybe we can wait until next year to get a player like this”, because that may not happen.
And as long as “push” means “push him off the roster” then I’m OK with that.Report

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no doubt
the pats look for position holes a year out when they draftReport

HunterCenter
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that was the point of the articleReport

Frank Stein
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Indeed. His CB take is surprising … though I still think CB is a 2018 need but I see where he is coming from …Report

HunterCenter
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I’d definitely draft one this season if a good one fallsReport

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It wouldn’t shock me if they brought in a kicker to compete with Gost.Report

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Had they not converted on one of those two point tries, Gost would be more of a discussion pointReport

BoSoxJim
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They didn’t convert in the AFC CG the year before. We can only dream of what might have happened if he only made that f’ing extra point.
BB probably would have kicked FGs instead of going for it on 4th down a couple times.
Dammit! I swore I would not talk about it anymore!Report

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when you factor in our miracle finish this year, it kind of evens outReport

Frank Stein
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This year’s finish is simply ridiculous .. there were so many things that had to go right and amazingly all of them did … That was our payback for Tyree catch, even Kearse catch .. (although not as costly)Report

BoSoxJim
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Nothing makes up for Eli f’ing Manning being 2-0 vs us in SBs.
But each SB win is like a drug…it takes the pain away for a while.Report

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Well, I suppose if I still lived in CT and constantly had Giants fans spewing nonsense about them owning us I would agree. But the randomness of a super bowl opponent just makes it seem coincidentalReport

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I don’t think it’s a coincidence. Coughlin had success vs. BB throughout their careers.Report

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yup – really looking forward to reliving it soon on 3 games to gloryReport

BoSoxJim
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Not for me. I still have nightmares of SB 42. The Lombardis won after that help ease the pain, but it never goes away completely.Report

BoSoxJim
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Great, now I’m thinking about Reche Caldwell in the AFC CG at the Colts.Report

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we’ll find out soon how difficult it is to repeatReport

Frank Stein
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hurts … . would have been 3 in 3 …Report

HunterCenter
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he should be a discussion point regardless. Danny and White totally bailed him out. I definitely think they should bring in some competition.Report

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The problem though is he is one of the best at spot kicking .. which combined with the prowess of Slater and Brandon king makes the opponents start with poor field positionReport

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agree, but nothing wrong with a little competitionReport

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Sure ..I am all for that …Report

BoSoxJim
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@hunter who is this? 🙂
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can’t tell, the photo is a couple inches shortReport

BoSoxJim
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It’s that dude that wasn’t on the team in 2004-05 🙂 Just bustin’ your chops.Report

HunterCenter
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so he was on the 2004 team? The site I was looking at was wrong, then. It had him listed for 2005 but not for 2004.Report

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Yeah. He missed 5 regular season games in the 04-05 season. But was there for everything else.Report

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was doobie-lover a pete carroll pick or parcells? he was one of my favorites – no one “seeked” the first down marker better than faulkReport

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Carroll, but essentially a Grier pick (I think).Report

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No need to post photos of yourself 🙂Report

BoSoxJim
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Thank you for finally admitting how awesome I am. However, that is not me in the photo. 🙂Report

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Did you really think I didn’t know who that is Mr. Awesome?Report

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This guy exists! Now we just need to get him on first
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Do you read it like “Chewy who” ?Report

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There’s a chance in interleague play I guess. Wheezing smoker’s laughs will sound from the announcer’s booth.Report

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I’m telling you! Hu’s on first!Report

HunterCenter
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Not that anyone cares, but I proposed to my wife on the steps of the Philadelphia Museum of Art, site of the 2017 draft. And no, her name is not ADRIAN…Report

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Did she ask to be traded to the Giants?

Congrats, Hunter!Report

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Rocky??Report

Kariya
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Was she the first pick?Report

HunterCenter
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yes, a highly touted rookie oozing with physical talent and off the charts intangiblesReport

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Good Locker room presence and ST?Report

Panic Time
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Don’t underestimate the value of a core “kitchen only” playerReport

HunterCenter
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hey now, she is well rounded and versatile!Report

Panic Time
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How long ago did you draft your wife?Report

HunterCenter
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2004. She was my first round pick.Report

Panic Time
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Did you pick up the option year or will it become a RFA?Report

Kariya
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He’s going to decide after training camp this year I take it.Report

HunterCenter
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I signed her to a long term deal in 2009. I may have slightly overpaid, but she is still producing.Report

Kariya
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Do what BB does – draft a replacement as added motivation for the veteran.Report

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He will have a holdout in that case … unlike Football the player locks the team out ..Report

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That might be a problem thenReport

Kariya
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Good job. Almost as long as Brady and the Pats.Report

HunterCenter
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that’s the first I’ve heard any pundit say that Fullback is a current need (i.e. “item to address”) Benoit —->Report

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He probably run out of new possibilities and since he has to post something…Report

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even if it was … Pats just extended Develin ..Report

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2 year, $2,450,000 contract with the New England Patriots, including a $300,000 signing bonus, $500,000 guaranteed.
That is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for a FBReport

BoSoxJim
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But essentially it’s a 1 year deal. Like White. and like just about everyone else they picked up.Report

HunterCenter
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especially since Fullbacks usually make way less than Kickers and Punters.Report

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I wonder if he’s not a fan of Develin, or if he sees the Pats collecting a certain type of RB and surmises that Develin is not a good fit for the direction they are going. I’d guess it’s the latter.Report

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but BB does not think so … I think he just forgot about him …Report

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right, because he then talks about Allen as an H-Back. Strange.Report

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The first patriots trade — back up into the first round — will be announced within the next 24 hours.
Adam Schefter better give me credit when he comes up with his breaking news.Report

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Butler?Report

Panic Time
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Butler or JG, whichever 1rd pick they are not planning to useReport

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I laughed when I saw Polian (of all people) say that the Browns should trade 2017 12th overall pick, 2017 2nd round pick, 2017 3rd round pick, and 2018 2nd round pick, to the Pats for Jimmy G.

Irsay must have shared his pills with Polian.Report

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Hey, nowadays if you’re in the media business, the more outrageous your comments, the better.Report

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Whether you think DJ Foster makes it onto the Patriots or onto the Saskatchewan Roughriders, we can all agree that Oliver Thomas will keep us updated about it in 2020.Report

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Ryan Hannable✔@RyanHannable
Patriots quietly piecing together perhaps best backfield in Bill Belichick-Tom Brady era

I like Hannable, but this is a bit much. Don’t see how this backfield is better than Dillon/Faulk back in the 04-05 season.Report

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His point is it is better across the board … i.e. depth …Report

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I would still take Dillon/Faulk 100 out of 100 times.Report

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let’s see if your opinion changes by the end of the seasonReport

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Why would it? Dillon was a friggin’ monster that year. Add up all the RBs the Pats have and they don’t equal the runner that Dillon was. Faulk was probably the best pass protecting RB they’ve had and when you needed a first down, Faulk would get it.
Now you need 4 RBs to equal what those two gave you?Report

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Not going into that … the point is behind Faulk/Dillon there was nobody .. so if they had gotten hurt it would have been bad …
in this case #1-4 are good and there would be little or no dropffReport

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That doesn’t make it the best backfield. It makes it deeper.
2004 was still the best backfield.Report

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Hannable also said “perhaps”Report

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screw that! no hedging bets allowed! 😉Report

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I’ll bet that the ’17 backfield finishes with more yards, catches and TDs than the ’04 backfield, in total.

Who cares if it is 2 or 4 players that do the work, as long as other positions aren’t negatively affected by the amount of cap space currently at the RB position.Report

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Not just the cap space, it’s the roster spaces.
So if a QB passes for more yards and TDs than Brady did in 2004, that means he was better than Brady?Report

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also, Faulk wasn’t even on the team in 2004, so I assume we are talking about 2005.

2005: Dillon, Faulk, Mike Cloud, Patrick Pass, Heath EvansReport

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What the hell are you talking about? Of course Faulk was on the team in 2004. He didn’t play in 5 games during the regular season but he was most certainly on the team.Report

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they are keeping 4 RBs regardless of who the #3 and #4 are. Moot point, Jim.Report

HunterCenter
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you have the benefit of hindsight for the ’04 group, and no benefit of hindsight for the ’17 group. We haven’t even seen Burkhead or Gillislee in this offense yet. Let’s allow it to play out.Report

HunterCenter
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the depth seems greater on paper. as far as performance, that obviously remains to be seen.Report

Panic Time
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My concern with the Pats current FA approach is that they might end up with a glut of free agents in a couple of years and that may create some financial troubles because they won’t have young and cheap replacement under contractReport

bring
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how many rooks make the team every year? also, the practice squad expanded recently so that helpsReport

HunterCenter
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my guess is that only 2 rookies from this draft make the 53, and both will likely be inactive most games. Crazy.Report

BoSoxJim
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How many players on the 2017 squad are on the last year of their deals?Report

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The roster currently so well stacked that there are not more than 2-3 spots open across the board … for the UDFAs and lower round picks it most likely will be a PS opportunity only ..Report

hugowasmyhomeboy
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That is a valid concern. It makes it hard to guess what their draft strategy will be – there are so few immediate needs but a lot of horizon ones (CB, LT, LB, SS, even RB).Report

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so IR a CB like Sidney Jones?Report

HunterCenter
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I’d be all for a move like that, in theory. multiple redshirt (or IR) rookiesReport

Panic Time
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You can’t fully develop players by having them on IR, reason why Brissett ended up on the active roster last yearReport

HunterCenter
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this is true. but I’d still pull the trigger on the “injured talent value” when available in this draftReport

HunterCenter
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this is why they need to be drafting for 2018/2019 in this coming draft, projecting out to some of their future needs.Report

BoSoxJim
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This offseason continues to blow my mind.Report

Deadsmack #NoDaysOff
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If BB is great coach, IMO he is even better GM, I really trust him to do those decisions.
Remember when we said the same because in 2017 FA we would have Hightower, Collins, Sheard and Butler to sign?
I guess BB did a good job, even with some decisions that we didn’t see coming a year ago.Report

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NBA Trade Rumors: Paul George told ex-Pacers teammates he wants to join LakersReport

bring
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everyone knows this alreadyReport

HunterCenter
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maybe he wants to make sure he can secure those valuable Chargers season tickets.Report

Deadsmack #NoDaysOff
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LA is Lakers city more than any other team (Dodgers, Kings, Clips, Chargers, Rams, Galaxy, etc)Report

HunterCenter
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he must want those Rams tickets too, then.Report

Deadsmack #NoDaysOff
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🙂Report

Deadsmack #NoDaysOff
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According to the league’s Last Two Minute Report, LeBron James moved his pivot foot at the start of his dribble before sinking a go-ahead 3-pointer with 1:14 remaining in the fourth quarter of the Cavs’ 106-102 win.

Fred Hoiberg:” That’s why it is also impossible to stop Lebron”Report

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1. Does anyone find it surprising that Mangold has drawn no interest from teams? Ankle injuries are tough, but is that the real reason? Or is he done (33 years old)? 2. I saw some complaints about Gillislee and his pay and how it would be cheaper to get a draft pick. Mike Reiss’ article on proven commodities is a must read. I like the Gillislee move and this is the year to really spend, so why not? 3. Not sure how others feel about it, I still think LG will make the team (if the Giants interest does not… Read more »
HunterCenter
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I’d MUCH rather see the Pats draft an RB than sign Blount. Go younger at that position now.. they’ve already invested more than enough in vets.Report

dfwpatsfan
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The problem is this year’s draft is average for RBs. I have to believe that DJ Foster will be beating out anybody they draft in the lower rounds. Unless they hit on the UDFA diamond like Butler, the chances are pretty slim.

LG is not going to get an AP like deal with any team. Even the Raiders are not foolish anymore.Report

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I have to disagree with that. This RB class is pretty deep (much more than last season). DJ Foster isn’t beating anybody that they could get in lower rounds.
He’s more of a “RB in name only” than White. They could conceivably keep him as insurance for White, but he is easily upgradable.Report

HunterCenter
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heck, they can probably just keep Foster on the PS one more year as emergency depth for White and at Slot WR.Report

BoSoxJim
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That’s what I mean. He’s not getting plucked off the PS by other teams, so he can be cheap insurance for White. However, I would hope they consider upgrading.
I misspoke in my last post. I shouldn’t have said he couldn’t beat anybody in the lower rounds. I meant to say that there are many in the later rounds and PFA that I would take over Foster.Report

HunterCenter
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most pundits I have read seem to think this is a strong RB draft class. regardless, I am less worried about the future now that they signed Gillislee to a 2-year deal, and he is still pretty young. With White and Gillislee both on multi-year deals, the position is now fairly well layered. They could wait to draft an RB until the 2018 draft and probably still be ok.Report

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Zack Cox ✔ @ZackCoxNESN
What kind of player can the Patriots expect to find at No. 72? A look back at their recent third-round draft picks. http://nesn.com/?p=716711Report

Panic Time
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A special team only safety?Report

Deadsmack #NoDaysOff
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Slater version on defense

PS: Oh, we already have Ebner 🙂Report

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Ryan Hannable ✔ @RyanHannable
Report: Mutual interest between LeGarrette Blount, Giants

http://itiswhatitis.weei.com/sports/newengland/football/patriots/2017/04/25/report-mutual-interest-between-legarrette-blount-giants/ … via @WEEIReport

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Via WOIO-TV, a woman has accused an unnamed NFL prospect of sexual assault. The player is expected to be selected in round one. WOIO-TV has decided not to name the prospect, pending the issuance of a police report. WOIO-TV also has emphasized that the player has not yet been charged with a crime.Report

dfwpatsfan
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This post is funny every time I read it. Thanks Pauly, wherever you are!Report

hugowasmyhomeboy
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Submitted a draft post for y’allReport

itsBradyBaby
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Draft Kenbrell Dobson and Bequette Cunningham.Report

Panic Time
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You mean craft?Report

HunterCenter
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Nah, Pats are good. They already have Chad Lucien.Report

Bones
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Frank, see my comments below. Something’s up.Report

Frank Stein
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I have sent you an email ..Report

bring
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I’m ok with getting a thumbs down, though I don’t give them – I usually reply if I question a specific commentReport

evaldes101993
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To me, thumbs down don’t exist.Report

MasterAndCommander
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To wake up or not wake up…that is the question……Report

evaldes101993
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Whether ’tis nobler in the mind to sleep. The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.Report

Giacomino da Recanati
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WAKE UP !!! Lunch time !!!Report

Bones
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Did you actually make that last post about impersonating, Hugo? I’m thinking not.Report

hugowasmyhomeboy
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Yes I did. I was trying to see what happens when you put a different name in the box. Sounds like your moderating toolkit catches this stuff.Report

Bones
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What’s with the hyperlink in the screen name though?Report

Calipatsfan3473
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There are 2 likes from Hugo under Matt’s imposter comment.Report

Calipatsfan3473
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The sentence structure is incomplete- doesn’t sound like him.Report

Bones
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Yeah, something’s up, don’t think it was him. In the Dashboard, the comment has the same email and IP addresses, but it says Jonc77 made the comment, with the weird Undefined under the name, and the hyperlink in Hugo’s name also leads to http://undefined. I’ve never seen that here before, names don’t ever have hyperlinks in them. Gives me the willies, gonna avoid this place unless it’s resolved.Report

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I will look into it …Report

Neil X
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So are we all happy that Blount is gone? I’m OK with it. I’m intrigued to see how Burkhead and Gilleslie do.Report

dp73
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I don’t know why Patriot fans would be happy about it. To me Burkhead and Gilleslie are unproven as full time players.Report

bring
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Anytime we get younger/faster I am happyReport

Bones
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I’m sad, but not as sad as the Minutemen. Their fifteen minutes of fame is up.Report

Neil X
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I’m not following this……Report

Bones
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TD celebrations.Report

Neil X
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Oh. I gotta admit, I’m not up on TD celebrations. Other than Herny making it rain and Gronk’s ball deflating spikes, I got nothing,.Report

Calipatsfan3473
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Blount used to run over to the Minuteman and pose with them after a TD.Report

Neil X
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I suppose I should know that, seeing as Blount scored 18 TDs last year.Report

Calipatsfan3473
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Some were on the road though 🙂Report

Calipatsfan3473
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Maybe White will take over in his honor.Report

Calipatsfan3473
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Uh-oh- Doug Moore with a possible developing story about a woman accusing a draft prospect of sexual assault in Cleveland- police not giving out the name————————————————–> Pretty sketchy.Report

Jonc77
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so was that you?Report

Bones
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It was me. I used Hugo instead of his full name because that’s what his likes show up as.Report

Jonc77
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got itReport

Calipatsfan3473
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Maybe you should get an avi Jon.Report

hugowasmyhomeboy
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While I find the notion that someone is impersonating someone else on a football talk site, it is pretty easy if you want. If you really, all you have to do is logout, enter the name of another poster, and post as a guest with that name.Report

Bones
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Your post appears weirdly in the Mod Dashboard under the name Jonc77 with an undefined link, and sure enough, your name on this post is a hyperlink.Report

Bones
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Sounds about right. I was originally thinking an AFCN-type could easily mess with us when the site was set up. Don’t know who’d be messing with Jon.Report

Jonc77
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oh i could think of a few peopleReport

hugowasmyhomeboy
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Saying baseball has less action than football, like saying Lawrence of Arabia has less action than Transformers 4, is both true and missing the point.Report

cqrun
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Yeah, Lawrence of Arabia was also a good movie.Report

Bones
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Unless you frequent the TCM Forum.Report

Calipatsfan3473
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Jon- I have noticed that if there are any comments pertaining to Trump in the evening- and even some during the day- that it lists you as the down voter- or sometimes “guest”.Report

Jonc77
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it wasnt me doing it. but oh well.Report

Bones
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Is Bring’s Trump comment the one you were talking about? I was waiting for a downvote to appear while you were on, and none did. Sounds like somebody has your password. Change it.Report

cqrun
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Bossy Bones.:-)Report

Bones
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My first complaint about this site was the lack of a secure connection for logins.Report

Jonc77
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yes. okReport

Bones
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It’s usually in the middle of weekdays when I don’t even figure you’re on.Report

Jonc77
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im usually never on during week days during the day. once in a great while i will beReport

Bones
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Matter of fact, my last comment “you” down-voted was an EPalaz joke…hmm…surely not him?Report

Calipatsfan3473
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I thought he may have been taking some time off and was available during the day.Report

cqrun
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I thought he was on a phone and didn’t want to type out a response.Report

Calipatsfan3473
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I always figured the “guest” was Ez lurking.Report

Bones
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EPalaz has shown up with several different names, doesn’t try to hide.Report

Calipatsfan3473
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What names??Report

Bones
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Can’t remember. Nobody’s ever on to approve them, and they show up hours later. I guess he thinks we’re deliberately denying his posts.Report

Calipatsfan3473
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Ah- the only one’s I can’t place are Shaggy and Giancomo something.Report

Neil X
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Yeah that Gaincomo guy knows our history. Can’t figure out who he used to be. Maybe Awesome Hair.Report

Bones
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No, he’s said his former screen name, danged if I remember who he said, not Awesome Hair. Shaggy and Guests are the only unknowns.Report

Calipatsfan3473
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Was it “Vince Wilfork will eat you”??Report

Bones
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No, he’s back to using SeaBass.Report

Jonc77
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has anyone had a issue where you never gave someone a thumbs down but they got one from you?Report

Neil X
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My laptop has a hair trigger mouse pad. Sometimes when the cursor passes over a button that could be clicked on, it clicks it without me clicking anything. It’s like an electrical short.Report

cqrun
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Unlikely. Your laptop sounds possessed. I suggest you find a Catholic priest immediately to begin an exorcism.Report

Neil X
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It’s possessed by cheap Chinese workmanship.Report

Bones
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When my sister-in-law reformatted the laptop I gave her, hovering the cursor over a button would end up clicking it for her, can be changed in settings.Report

Neil X
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No, this is a hardware issue, very common in cheap Dell laptops. Resting your hands on the surface of the laptop is enough to complete the connection for a click. It only happens sometimes, but when it’s shorted its like you are just holding the mouse button down constantly for a few seconds.Report

LaFeteMattDog
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You’ve given me a thumbs down before…not sure if I deserved it.Report

Bones
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If it was a soccer comment, Jon likely did it. 🙂Report

Jonc77
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i dont recall doing thatReport

LaFeteMattDog
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It’s ok. I forgive you.

I’m pretty sure my comment was defending Smack’s right to exist so it was probably warranted. 🙂Report

Bones
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Not that I know of, did you mis-hit the like button?Report

Jonc77
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no it just showed up there. I saw a comment from Bring last night and it had a thumbs down. i wondered who it was and it was meReport

Bones
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No idea. Site gets a little weird sometimes. I’ll try to reply to somebody and my comment will sometimes end up in a completely different part of the thread.Report

LaFeteMattDog
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Do you recall any “missing time” last night?Report

Calipatsfan3473
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How would he remember that??Report

Neil X
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I always remember the things that happen when I blackout.Report

hugowasmyhomeboy
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I haven’t blacked out in a long time. It was the night of the Pats-Panthers preseason game in 2014.Report

Bones
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That’s what wives are for.Report

Jonc77
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they like to remind you of thingsReport

Calipatsfan3473
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I’ve still never actually seen “the list of things to do”.Report

Calipatsfan3473
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I’ve noticed that your name shows up on a lot of the down votes.Report

Jonc77
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i don’t think i have given a down vote. But i see themReport

cqrun
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Do you down vote during the day? Often I see your name with down votes (usually Smack’s) but you never comment.Report

Calipatsfan3473
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I’ve seen that too.Report

Bones
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Me or Jon? I’ve never down-voted anybody.Report

Calipatsfan3473
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JonReport

Bones
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That’s just weird. You’ve down-voted quite a few of mine.Report

LaFeteMattDog
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Is there a Jon imposter?Report

hugowasmyhomeboy
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Jond77Report

Calipatsfan3473
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I do neither. Is someone impersonating you??Report

Neil X
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Yeah Cali, I can believe that. I don’t think I’ve seen you like a post ever, even once.Report